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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My theory is that as wealth inequality increases, so does outside tutoring, “enrichment”, private coaching, college consultants among parents with the means to pay. I grew up in Asia where all my friends had hours of tutoring on top of private school educations to make us more competitive for the limited spots in top universities. It’s interesting to see it as a more widespread phenomenon here now - but mostly in wealthy, urban areas where the perceived competition is greater.[/quote]

I think this is driven by the immigrant culture more than wealth inequality. I am an immigrant myself, and[b] I am surprised how blaise most non-immigrant families are about academic achievement[/b]. The only exception is sports. [/quote]

[b]The bolded is a front for many you realize.[/b] It's long been considered declasse in America to care too much about academics outwardly. You have to look like you're achieving without trying.

Why it's OK to show you are trying on athletics confuses me. Or the arts for that matter. It's OK to spend hours and hours practicing an instrument. It's not OK to mention your math tutor.[/quote]

No, it's not a front. They are not great at music, either - non-immigrant parents have very high tolerance for poor musicianship.

I am not talking about the parents are telling me - I am talking about what my kids are telling me about what students are struggling with in classes. It goes almost without saying that highest academic performers are going to have an "ethnic" angle.[/quote]

Amy Chua has entered the chat.

You’re only noticing what bolsters your belief that you’re the best ethnicity ever? MY kids are telling me about the kids who are struggling, too, and they are not just the white American kids that you seem hellbent on deriding. Being Asian and an immigrant doesn’t automatically make you smart or hard working or good at music. And I say that as an Asian person and an immigrant. [/quote]

I am not Asian. It is true that many kids of different ethnicities are struggling, but it also true that, at the very top, there are few white kids and the few that are there typically have at least one immigrant parent. Look at any orchestra, look at any winning academic team... Increasingly, even sports. I mean even kids are noticing it. My then 8 year old went to an audition some time ago and described it as "an Asian overload".[/quote]

Is it possible that the amount of kids of immigrants you’re noticing is because you’re in an area with a lot of immigrants? I live somewhere where most of the people over 55 are white and were born in the U.S. Most of the people who are younger and having kids are families who immigrated, 1st gen families, and mixed families with one 1st gen parent. It reflects the changing demographics of areas with decent jobs and schools more than the accomplishments of specific groups. [/quote]

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