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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But then why are Michigan's SAT's so low compared to the schools listed above?[/quote]

Well for one thing, a poster said high scoring students won't apply.

And the data shown was about enrolled students.

There are three possible types of score distributions here:

-Applicants
-Admitted
-Enrolled

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Gotcha. Hopefully the trend of high scoring applicants not applying is abated, although I guess relying less on the SAT won't be helpful for that.  Kids are prestige chasers...if all the high SAT scorers are applying to X, and the low scoring ones to Y, you'll get a tautological cycle of only low scorers applying to Michigan.[/quote]

Most kids who copy and chase are chasing the name brand for their shirt, the perceived fun factor, and the sports watching opportunities. Michigan is doing well in all these categories.

Kids are not saying: "I won't go to X because the SAT distribution is too low and mine is too high to go there".  They are instead likely to say "I am applying to 15 schools because I'm afraid I won't get in anywhere good."

Think about it then ask a kid if you still think kids are motivated by SAT distributions.  By ranking, yes, by acceptance rate, yes, by SAT distribution...I don't think so.

I know Sasha Obama transferred and Lourdes Ciccone dropped out...but any state school that can attract a President's kid and a rock star's kid to attend does not need to worry about how some parents view the SAT distribution.  There are definitely more than enough applicants.

My personal feeling is that test optional allows universities to consider candidates who are capable of doing the work but don't have access to great schools, enrichment opportunities, etc.  Michigan certainly has enough data on the in-state high schools to know retention and graduation rates for its admitted students from them.  So doesn't have to require standardized test data to predict which in-state applicants will be able to succeed.

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I think Madonna herself attended (3 years) for longer than Lourdes. Lourdes was in my DCs year- not sure she was actually attending classes after freshman year. But it was fun to be on campus at the same time as Madonna, sadly we never ran into her although she did go to local restaurants and was out and about. [/quote]

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