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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, much better to talk about upcoming and hook bars versus the real issue.

Too many guns.[/quote]

Well, getting guns off the street would require more pretextual police stops and use of stop and frisk. I'm 100% for it but I'm not sure any jurisdiction in this area has the guts to do it.[/quote]

Exactly.  They want to pass more and more gun safety laws but don't want police to use enforcement mechanisms to actually get them off the streets. [/quote]

At the same time, the wealthy fight tax increases that either would supply law enforcement personnel at a level that could be effective without resorting to shortcut means that are inequitable (e.g., profiling-dependent stop and frisk) or would support social programs that would tend to reduce the tendency towards violent crime in the first place.[/quote]
What worries me is that you think this is true. Police are the only thing that wealthy people everywhere agree to pay for through taxes. [/quote]

+1. Wealthy people want police. Generally, POC and poor people also want more police. It's the social justice warriors who don't want them, and unfortunately they mobilize well and have an outsized voice in these discussions.

Stop and frisk does work and is probably the most effective tool. It's also not profiling-dependent, but instead is dependent on people engaging in behavior that causes reasonable suspicion, which everyone can verify with body-worn cameras. But again, it's a moot point in this area.[/quote]

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