Anonymous wrote:Yes, much better to talk about upcoming and hook bars versus the real issue.

Too many guns.

Yes. The issue without question at all is guns. Full stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

That incident was 7 miles from the neighborhoods under discussion in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

No but people with money and resources like great insurance are more likely to be able to manage it so it doesn't result in violence. Not always. Just more likely.

Yet Potomac and Bethesda kids have murdered their parents and others.

“Kids”? There’s been one kid who murdered his stepfather and I don’t think this is a topic that you’ll want to pursue.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

No but people with money and resources like great insurance are more likely to be able to manage it so it doesn't result in violence. Not always. Just more likely.

Yet Potomac and Bethesda kids have murdered their parents and others.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

No but people with money and resources like great insurance are more likely to be able to manage it so it doesn't result in violence. Not always. Just more likely.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

His brother called 911 and his mom wa screaming in the background "put it down put it down!"

The brother later jumped out a window and fled, leaving his armed brother alone with their mom. Which is horrible no matter the circumstances. Whether the brother was the target of the man's rage or the mom was. It all just sucks.

(I listened to the 911 call, and you can too on Broadcastify)

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

Poor people have a higher propensity for mental illness, which is causally related to being poor. Poor people also have a higher propensity for violent behavior. These are just facts. I’m sorry that you don’t like these facts, but this is exactly why people keep getting murdered in Silver Spring and not Bethesda and why affluent people that live in Silver Spring away from poor people keep saying that they feel perfectly safe. When the residents that live in these apartments with the violence say otherwise.

When it's your individual neighbor, population propensity is irrelevant.

Just like you can be at low risk of breast cancer but still develop breast cancer.

The statement about the correlation between poverty and mental illness is both factual and statistically accurate. Mental illness is a causal risk factor for poverty because it increases the probability that a person will struggle to hold a job and makes it more challenging to manage adversity in life. Most people who are poor do not have a mental illness, but people with a mental illness are disproportionately likely to become poor due to the challenges associated with having a mental illness. Thus, there is a correlation between the frequency of mental illness and household/ individual income levels. Saying that "population propensity is irrelevant" is a ridiculous statement epitomizes the luxury belief's of pretentious progressives. The residents that live in lower-income neighborhoods are disproportionately likely to be a victim of violence (in part) because their communities have higher (per capita) rates of mental illness. Most people with mental illnesses are not prone to violence, but the odds of encountering a violent mentally ill person will be higher if you live in an area with that has a larger % of people suffering from mental illnesses. Ignoring group level disparities does not make problems go away and it actually harms low-income communities to pretend otherwise. We need to invest more resources in treating mental illnesses and providing intensive supervised healthcare for the subset of mentally ill people that have a history of violent behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

Poor people have a higher propensity for mental illness, which is causally related to being poor. Poor people also have a higher propensity for violent behavior. These are just facts. I’m sorry that you don’t like these facts, but this is exactly why people keep getting murdered in Silver Spring and not Bethesda and why affluent people that live in Silver Spring away from poor people keep saying that they feel perfectly safe. When the residents that live in these apartments with the violence say otherwise.

When it's your individual neighbor, population propensity is irrelevant.

Just like you can be at low risk of breast cancer but still develop breast cancer.

This makes zero sense from any perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:I live right by this park and have for 15 years. Yes this deeply concerns me - we walk our dog around this park every morning as do many other neighbors. The fact that it happened so early is really scary too - our teens frequent this park and absolutely could have been there. We are also concerned about the seeming uptick in violence in downtown Silver Spring and many businesses moving out because of it. It’s a real shame because pre-pandemic it seemed very safe and thriving.

We moved here because it is more city than suburb - we really really love it and are not considering moving, nor are any of our neighbors that we know. We’re all just really sad and angry that this is happening but do not feel concerned in our daily lives and certainly don’t feel like this is a “war zone.” We’re all going about our lives as usual though yes, we are concerned and really wish something could be done - it is a Silver Spring problem, yes, but also seems like a general city problem as there are similar reports elsewhere. I am not sure where we would pick up and move from our beloved community and friends that doesn’t have these occasional violent and unacceptable issues. I think we all just feel a bit powerless.

This is because the government considers DTSS and the immediate surrounds as an easy target on which to force social agendas, while also considering it unworthy of investment to ensure equitable levels of public services. It's close in, but doesn't have the protection/self-determination of incorporated Takoma Park or Chevy Chase on either side. The concentrated wealth in those communities and in Bethesda tends to support protective political influence that inner SS doesn't get.

This is 100% true -- we only need to look at the upzoning proposal for a recent example. SS does not need more people; it is already incredibly dense, without proper infrastructure and services to handle the density, yet upzoning is being shoved down our throats.

With that said, part of the problem is that SS residents don't try very hard to protect their own neighborhoods. Bethesda residents would never allow hookah bars that open until 3 PM, yet there's no movement to get rid of them in SS even though they contribute to lots of late-night crime. Similarly, if you look on SS Nextdoor, you'll find lots of people who don't call police in response to crime; if you're ever able to pull up Bethesda Nextdoor, you'll see that it's very different and people welcome the police. SS residents can't expect much from the county when they don't act like they deserve anything different than what they have.

This is not so.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

You forgot to snap your fingers.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

Poor people have a higher propensity for mental illness, which is causally related to being poor. Poor people also have a higher propensity for violent behavior. These are just facts. I’m sorry that you don’t like these facts, but this is exactly why people keep getting murdered in Silver Spring and not Bethesda and why affluent people that live in Silver Spring away from poor people keep saying that they feel perfectly safe. When the residents that live in these apartments with the violence say otherwise.

When it's your individual neighbor, population propensity is irrelevant.

Just like you can be at low risk of breast cancer but still develop breast cancer.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

Poor people have a higher propensity for mental illness, which is causally related to being poor. Poor people also have a higher propensity for violent behavior. These are just facts. I’m sorry that you don’t like these facts, but this is exactly why people keep getting murdered in Silver Spring and not Bethesda and why affluent people that live in Silver Spring away from poor people keep saying that they feel perfectly safe. When the residents that live in these apartments with the violence say otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

Mental illness is not something only the poors have.

Mental health crises are not something only the poors have.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, there is no way I would live in any area of Silver Spring in an apartment building or close proximity to an apartment building.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/30/police-fatally-shoot-man-during-negotiations-inside-silver-spring-apartment/

What I don’t get is why lower income residents of Silver Spring have such a higher propensity for violence than lower income residents in Fairfax or Alexandria.

Ok? Nobody is forcing you to do that.

Though it is an odd conclusion to draw from an incident where the shooting and killing was done by the police.

If you read the story, the man was holding a hostage. Who wants to live near unstable, violent criminals?

If you read the story, the man was in the apartment with his mother. Please tell me where in Montgomery County it's possible to avoid living near people who have mental health crises, parents, and access to guns.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=45317

HE WAS HOLDING HIS OWN MOTHER HOSTAGE!

Well, that's not what the police news release says, but if that's what he was doing, then yes, that is something that people experiencing mental health crises do. Which parts of Montgomery County don't have people experiencing mental health crises? I live a long way from Silver Spring, nowhere near any apartments, and a family member called the police again for another welfare check on one of my neighbors, just last week.

What is your basis for saying that he was having a mental health crisis?

It’s in the police report.

You can go to the go fund me page by his family and they talk about struggling to help him with his mental health.

Link the report.

And I will also say this, I don’t want to live near people with a higher propensity to be violently mental ill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7614874/

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, much better to talk about upcoming and hook bars versus the real issue.

Too many guns.

Well, getting guns off the street would require more pretextual police stops and use of stop and frisk. I'm 100% for it but I'm not sure any jurisdiction in this area has the guts to do it.

Exactly. They want to pass more and more gun safety laws but don't want police to use enforcement mechanisms to actually get them off the streets.

At the same time, the wealthy fight tax increases that either would supply law enforcement personnel at a level that could be effective without resorting to shortcut means that are inequitable (e.g., profiling-dependent stop and frisk) or would support social programs that would tend to reduce the tendency towards violent crime in the first place.

What worries me is that you think this is true. Police are the only thing that wealthy people everywhere agree to pay for through taxes.

+1. Wealthy people want police. Generally, POC and poor people also want more police. It's the social justice warriors who don't want them, and unfortunately they mobilize well and have an outsized voice in these discussions.

Stop and frisk does work and is probably the most effective tool. It's also not profiling-dependent, but instead is dependent on people engaging in behavior that causes reasonable suspicion, which everyone can verify with body-worn cameras. But again, it's a moot point in this area.