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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let's do some numbers.

467 freshman at Amherst.  
40% athletes.

214 men
85 of them are athletes (ish)
129 non athletes.

That's a small number. That's a much smaller number than non-athlete males at many high schools.

Then the thorny part that's hard to parse out here, but what does that 129 cohort look like? Are 20 of them in the black box theater all day?   Are 40 of them? Are 20 of them at ROTC at UMass Amherst? (some are)  Are 5 of them over 25 years old?  Are 5 of them living at home?  Are 5 of them international who don't mix with kids not from their country?

I could slice this down a lot before I ever get to trans kids. [/quote]

But it really doesn't work this way in real life because a) LAC populations tend to be traditionally aged, residential college students living on campus or very close to campus, b) athletics just aren't as big a deal and so there's a lot of social overlap between athletes and everyone else at LAC, and c) no group--LGTBQ, international students, theater kids etc--are typically large enough to comprise their own social group--so they mix more, and d) the majors and the years mix more at LACs because there is less specialization.

There's often also a really narrow range of intellectual ability which seems to produce mixing across social groups.

I went to a LAC for undergrad (and a large private U for PhD) and I've been a prof at two different LACs and at a public U.  I don't think there's any school--save for a women's college-- where a straight typical boy isn't going to find plenty of other people to socialize with.  I don't recognize the stereotypes at all from the PP's descriptions.  
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