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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm confused. Presumably you went into the office before covid hit and you didn't get sick to your stomach and have panic attacks.

I don't understand why you feel that way now. I mean, sure it sucks to have to RTO, but not understanding why you are getting legit panic attacks over it.[/quote]

Exactly. You'll adjust.

I think you are feeling this way because you think that the employer is taking away something from you. But in reality, they adjusted for the pandemic and are adjusting things back to normal now.[/quote]

Employers absolutely are taking something from us with RTO. 
They did not want to lose any valuable labor time during covid so they fed everyone lines that if you got sick you could take "covid leave" blah blah but they found ways to get everyone connected and working from home pretty seamlessly.

Then when employees showed that they could do it, excel, be more productive and in some cases work even more hours (even when recovering from illnesses! or quarantining) they are not happy with that proof and want their way again.[/quote]

Put yourself in the shoes of your evil employer for just a moment, they have decided to bring their staff back to the office more days. Why? Do they think people are excelling and working more hours from home and they are trying to reduce productivity? Unlikely. Are they trying to torture you and cause panic attacks? Also unlikely. I think that most employers are sick of trying to reach their staff while they’re busy making soup or out picking up their kids and they need to bring them to an office to verify they do their jobs, plus the in person camaraderie is good for the team. Why else do you think so many are doing this?[/quote]

NP and although I would never admit this to our employees but one of the reasons we are doing this is to make it harder for people to quit (i.e. they use up more PTO for dr. appointments, etc. and they also have to take off a significant portion of the day if they interview elsewhere so it makes it harder for them to switch jobs).  I don't really get a vote but if it were up to me I would try to make our place a better place to work so people want to stay but as another poster noted it's all about the bottom line.[/quote]

We’re doing it to cull the herd without having to do layoffs. The true producers have been coming into the office since we reopened in fall 2021. If people quit rather than RTO, we can meet our headcount goals, open some positions for those who are coming in to move into, and rehire for their position if necessary.

Most of the people who don’t want to RTO are middle management types who are making $150-$200k plus benefits. Consolidating some of these positions has real budgetary impact.[/quote]

We've sadly lost some of our best staff because of RTO. They didn't want to come back so they left. And it's been hard to replace them with employees who were as good as they were.[/quote]

Are you sure RTO was the real problem? Or just a really convenient bridge-sustaining excuse to give for why they are leaving.[/quote]

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