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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The anti-choice poster here is trying to pretend that she's just presenting the unbiased facts of how second-trimester abortions proceed. Well, I for one, don't consider the National Right to Life Campaign an unbiased source. The truth is that the medical community has no consensus about when a fetus feels pain. Different studies have shown everything from 18-29 weeks or later - for the release of stress hormones. Whether a fetus has the context to understand that as "pain" is a different question. But, for instance, when my 22 week old had to undergo surgery while still in the womb - would you have suggested that she be offered anesthesia? Or that I should have forgone lifesaving surgery because she was being "torn apart" without anesthesia? These questions are complicated, and believe me, women can get all the information they need from, for instance, their genetics counselor without turning to someone like you who is trying to promote an agenda.To pretend that women don't seek information (the information that THEY think is important for their family's decision making) and agonize over these situation shows a profound disrespect for women going through a traumatic event.[/quote] Well there was a NY Times article posted as well. But it doesn't matter who complied the information, what does the information say, and what is the original source? Is So and So saying that fetuses feel pain with nothing to back that up, or is So and So telling you what Dr. McMD and Study McResearch said about fetal pain? You claim to be educated women. I'm sure you can find the original sources if the secondary sources cause seizures for you. As for your baby, I'm sorry that he or she went through that. But that doesn't mean that they didn't feel it. "...his tiny patients, many of them preterm infants, were often wheeled out of the ward and into an operating room. He soon learned what to expect on their return. The babies came back in terrible shape....What’s going on in there to make these babies so stressed?” Anand wondered. Breaking with hospital practice, he wrangled permission to follow his patients into the O.R. “That’s when I discovered that the babies were not getting anesthesia,” he recalled recently. Infants undergoing major surgery were receiving only a paralytic to keep them still." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/magazine/10Fetal-t.html?_r=1 It's something to consider. Just because you can't process what pain is, it doesn't mean you can't feel it. If you could feel it as a preterm infant, does that mean you CANNOT feel it in the womb if you were in the same age group? I don't know, but it's something to think about before just automatically assuming that fetuses do not feel pain. [/quote]
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