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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree with previous poster who said he is a narcissist.

Intelligent, but nothing like as intelligent as he thinks he is, hence his subscription to all kinds of bs contrarian nonsense.

I think any time 4 separate women come forward with accusations like this, you have to take them very seriously. I believe them.[/quote]

This. Withholding judgment after one accusation is prudent (and note I said "withholding judgment" not calling the accuser and liar). After four? Five?

One thing people don't seem to understand is that women do not profit from accusations like this. It is not financially beneficial to them (often the opposite, as the attention often forces them to hire people to help them) and it can often put them in harms way. It is miserable and vulnerable to tell people that something like this happened to you. I've done it and it's so hard because of the shame our society assigns to women who are raped or sexually abused.

The idea that being a rape accuser is someone a wonderful experience that many women seek out is nuts. Are there some people who may make false accusations in order to seek out sympathy or attention. Yes, though I should note anyone who does this is likely still a trauma survivor of some kind because it's not a rational choice. I suppose there are women who might make these accusations falsely to enact revenge, but because it so rarely works out for the accuser, I think this would be extremely misguided. It's likely to backfire and make people support the person you are trying to hurt, and you can ruin your own rep that way.

Most people who come forward with plausible, consistent stories of rape are doing so because they are tormented by the memory and trauma of it, worry their rapist could be hurting others, and hope that in telling their story, their rapist might face some consequences for what he did and that they might experience some closure. It takes guts to do this. The idea that five different women would say these things about the same guy and they'd all be lying? You really have to do some mental gymnastics to believe that would be the case.[/quote]

I am always inclined to believe women who come forward with assault allegations, because I mostly agree with this, but, I agree with this as applies to the general population. People/women who put forth accusations against celebs are not necessarily “gen pop” - to have orbited the celebs in the first place they are likely attention and fame seeking by nature and I suspect have a higher incident of lying for gain (like another poster pointed out but with respect to the accused - there is probably a higher percentage of assaulters in the world of celebs vs gen pop bc they believe they can get away with it, are entitled, etc). Anyway, multiple women coming forward does not look good but I do try to keep an open mind. [/quote]

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