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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]AAP center for Forestville is Forest Edge.

AAP center for Spring Hill is Churchill Road.

Westbriar is itself an AAP center.

Great Falls is the only other elementary school for which Colvin Run is the AAP center option.  
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Centers should be a thing of the past.  All kids should remain at their base schools, especially since they all seem to have LLIV at this point.  It's absurd that one group of kids gets to choose which school they'd like to attend, but the other group does not.[/quote]

Not for all schools but definitely Great Falls does not need to send their kids to Colvin Run. They are basically both centers in of themselves and Colvin Run ONLY pulls from Great Falls and Great Falls has it's own program so in this case it's obvious that neither of these schools need school choice for AAP.[/quote]

You can get rid of separate centers that draw from multiple schools but as long as there are LLIV-only classrooms some people will continue to complain about the AAP model. [/quote]

People will complain about the AAP model no matter what you do. And I say that as a mom of a Gen Ed kid. There's no way to run this kind of program that isn't going to upset someone.

I do think the AAP center model should be re-evaluated every 5-7 years. [b]I also question whether you need the AAP kids in an entirely separate classroom from 4th-6th since most people seem to agree that AAP or Gen Ed don't dictate your child's academic success in middle school and high school.[/b][/quote]

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Sorting kids at such an early age is inaccurate, inappropriate, and does no one any good in the long run.[/quote]

That's not what the research suggests.[/quote]

Actually, it is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/gifted-school-programs-effective/2021/08/07/893ed4e4-f532-11eb-9068-bf463c8c74de_story.html[/quote]

First, thank you for linking to this article. I read it and I found the research discussed, which is a lot more nuanced than you suggest. You might want to actually read the paper that is cited in the article, and to read the WaPo article itself more carefully before citing it as evidence supporting your anti-AAP crusade.

The WaPo article is clear that when considering a variety of outcomes and groups, the evidence is mixed or inconclusive. But one thing is clear, there is some evidence of benefits to reading and math. These are not huge effect sizes, but given that it is a national sample and there are so many variables muddying things, it may not be surprising. It may be that some schools have huge impacts and others less so. There is little evidence in this research of benefits to non-academic outcomes measured (absenteeism, for example).

A key issue is that the research involves a national sample and thus averages across many different schools of differing quality.

One finding that is concerning is that black and lower-income children do not seem to realize the same benefits as other groups, and that this suggests it's less about access than resources. These children may be at schools that are less able to deliver a quality program to support their academic growth. This concerns me a lot as some on this forum have talked about FCPS transitioning to a LLIV only model, which could harm students at lower performing/lower resourced schools.

I am in education and have had URM students who work with me tell me that they benefited from AAP and being able to attend a AAP in a more resourced school. They had a choice to do so and took the opportunity and excelled. Get rid of AAP and you may actually exacerbate inequity by removing opportunities for bright URM students to get the resources they need in order to achieve.
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