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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]I don’t think anyone here can speak to the will of the people with authority. The quality of like didn’t improve as expected and slid further since the election.

To know the will of the people put it to the referendum. How many support the 2 laws? How many support the statehood no matter what? How many would rather not be taxed?

Puerto Rico people get to vote. In DC we assume.[/quote]

DC had a referendum on statehood. It passed with 86% support:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Washington,_D.C.,_statehood_referendum

As for the criminal code revision, how many even understand it? Most of the media has completely misrepresented it. I'd be willing to bet that if voters actually understood the changes, it would have overwhelming support. Unfortunately, we live in a time where "if you are explaining, you are losing" is accepted as a truism. Supporters of the revisions are stuck explaining because so much misinformation has been spread.

For instance, how many are aware the the revision includes new gun offenses and has several enhancements for gun violations that can add prison time to a sentence? Those will be lost if Congress blocks the bill.
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But Charles Allen has *repeatedly* said that such enhancements do nothing to lower the crime rate. He said it yesterday on WAMU. So why did he include that? Nothing he does makes a lick of sense. Please, explain it to me, because you clearly think you have all the answers.[/quote]

Charles Allen can speak for himself and those of you with Charles Allen obsessions should probably look into a more constructive hobby. I personally don't think that longer jail terms have an impact on crime. But those of you who do should be pretty happy with the revision because it provides plenty of jail time. [/quote]

Not for 12 year old carjackers, though?

Respectfully, you are wrong on this issue. Many of us moderate Democrats/crime concerned citizens and families  will vote with our feet and move to the burbs, including my family. This will cause the city’s revenue to continue to plummet. I guess that’s all well and good with you?[/quote]

Why would you leave? We are stuck with the laws you do desperately wanted to protect.[/quote]

Those laws, sure. But it’s more so the progressive policies of the last few years (YRA, second look, no chasing atvs, no loss of license for thousands in tickets, etc) that combined don’t help. Plus the push to reduce the police force or its budget. Please not prosecuting teens. I mean we are talking in circles, Jeff.

I agree some changes need to happen, but I err on the side of strict punishment rather than leniency.

The problem is both sides of the political spectrum want to try all their methods out and not be hindered by the others sides’ policies. For example, progressives are so sure their methods work work. They think: “if we just keep studying the root causes of poverty, if we keep throwing money at this, if we spend millions more on violence interruptors, if we allow repeat offenders early release, if we just keep doing this stuff we will ultimately solve the violence crisis and in 20 years we will have been proven right.”

Whereas a lot of more moderate or conservative people are just like: “lock em up, some people need to be away from society for everyone else’s good.”

Having lived in DC my whole life, I am fed up with pouring tax dollars into progressive programs with questionable efficacy (violence interruptors, etc)  rather than just clamping down. I get it. We’ve had a reckoning in the last few years, we have studied the disparate impact and who is getting locked up, but like what is the answer? Just increased leniency, tolerance for “certain misdemeanor crimes” and basically shrugging and letting it happen, so there are less arrests and jail sentences across the board? No dude. And the whole country is kind of seeing that that approach causes more crime. Chicago is an example of people being fed up with constant shootings all the time. The whole thing just sucks. The history of how this country came to have so many oppressed and desperate people is really soul crushing.[/quote]

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