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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Religous schools can teach dogma (see creationism)that is out of the mainstream of academia. Public schools should not. It is IRONIC that conservatives say they want government out of their lives, yet here they are DICTATING what is taught in school, what doctors can discuss with patients, etc.[/quote] But isn't their goal exactly that, to remove the teaching of dogma (ideology, race essentialism, etc.) from public schools? Maybe you don't recognize your own dogmas as dogmas. [/quote] I am sorry, but [b]teaching creationism isn't science. Ignoring evolution is ignoring science.[/b] No one except the fundamentlaists are interest in "dogma". Teaching about US Histpry and the role of race is not "CRT" but that isn't how CRT is defined when you talk to the average 2020's Republican.[/quote] DP. Once again: who is proposing the teaching of creationism in public schools and/or universities? This strawman you've concocted is not a good look.[/quote] Crickets.[/quote] Im still waiting to hear how banning teaching that posits "American history as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence." isn't instilling a particular dogma [/quote] Right?? The language in the bill is not just promoting an actual political agenda, but vague and unenforceable at times. "May not suppress or distort significant historical events," can't have curriculum that "defines American history as contrary to the creation of a new nation based on universal principles stated in the Declaration of Independence," must have "engagement with the Western literary tradition," and "whenever applicable, promote the philosophical underpinnings of Western civilization." It's grotesque. It's not to say that any of that, in theory, is bad. (Pun intended). But it's the exclusion of all other ways of thinking, which are now prohibited. How is this not censorship based on political ideology? If you agree with this process, ask yourself this. Change everything to include all core curricula MUST contain DEI and racial equity, MUST include other worldly philosophies, MUST include gender studies and analysis. If you're not OK with that, you shouldn't be OK with this. This is authoritarianism plain and simple. If you just like the outcome and not the process, you should be screaming from the rooftops about this as awful. Because what you can do to someone can be done to you, too. [/quote] And all of it is required in a core history class that all students at public universities will have to take. Can that history class teach slavery? Is the trail of tears off limits? Jim Crow? [/quote]
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