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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And here are two renderings of 1917 October Revolution maps that clearly show that what is modern-day Crimea was pretty much center-of-mass for Ukraine before Stalin wiped out about 2/3rds'ish of the population.

http://kontur-map.ru/1584797_BIG_1_0.jpg

http://ispu.ru/files/u2/book/history/11tema11/kart11/oktabrsk_revoluzia2_files/image001.jpg

Pretty sure ordinary Russians wouldn't know this history, so I hope this info makes its way into anti-propaganda campaigns the next time the news reports Russia is "saving Russians" in the Crimea.[/quote]

Great now do a rendering from 1915. [/quote]

I'm guessing your point is either that (a) "Ukraine" was primarily formed by the 1914-1918 Eastern Front formed from the Austrio-Hungarian and Rumanian Empires, or (b) that Russia was further West than it is now?

If (a), I can only reference the earliest a country (or recognized geographic region) exists as Ukraine.

If (b), then by that argument I might have to go back even further to reference the Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Vikings, etc.   So that means that all of Russia would be owned by.. Finland, maybe?[/quote]

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