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Lol I’m a fan of Notre Dame but UVA has the [b]highest graduation rate of any state school in the country[/b] and rivals the very best privates (including ND) in this department.  In many ways UVA is basically Notre Dame without religion.  [/quote]

If you think the two are in any way comparable, you have not seen both campuses. I wonder how much the UVA graduation rate is impacted by the multimillionaire parents who refuse to pay for their child to transfer to another school? At least with respect to these kids, the term “captivity rate” is more apt. [/quote]

Not sure where you are getting your facts.

4 year graduation rate:
Notre Dame 93% (highest in the country) 
UVA 89%
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/highest-grad-rate

6 year graduation rate:
Notre Dame 97% (#3 in country tied with UC Berkeley and Yale) 
UVA 94%
https://www.collegexpress.com/lists/list/colleges-with-the-highest-six-year-graduation-rates/665/

Hey isn't UC Berkeley a public university?  I guess that theory goes out the window too (see bolded above).

And I agree, ND does have the most beautiful campus.

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I am not sure what facts you think I did not know: I was well aware that Notre Dame’s graduation rate is the highest in the country. (Didn’t want to rub it in, mind you.) And Virginia’s is also high, which — if you can reread and find nuance, though you do not seem the nuance type — was precisely the point: where else do students have to go if they are unhappy at the UVA’s of the world? Having already gone there because of cost, the alternatives are very limited. They are essentially “in captivity.” In fact, it is a wonder that state flagships do not overwhelmingly dominate over private universities in graduation rates for that very reason. They do not, though, because of an inferior student experience. Again, Notre Dame’s student experience is in no way comparable to UVA. Get it? [/quote]

You're assuming that UVA, which has one of the wealthiest student bodies in the country, is full of kids who can't afford to go elsewhere?  Ok . . . [/quote]

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