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[quote=Anonymous][quote] Here's another list for you since you can't acknowledge that Phoenix is a desirable place to live with a good job market. Chicago isn't a clear favorite no matter how many times you insist it is. Have you ever been to Phoenix or Arizona? https://azbigmedia.com/lifestyle/tucson-phoenix-am...t-cities-for-new-college-grads[/quote] This is honestly like shooting fish in a barrel. If you read the article you just linked, it proudly states (as one would expect of an Arizona publication) that "SmartAsset" has ranked Tucson the 19th and Phoenix the 25th "best cities for new college grads" based on a combination of jobs, affordability and fun. And good for those two cities, seriously - I like them both. But the article also states -- not sure if you read past the headline - that Des Moines, Iowa was ranked 15th best city for new college grads, and that another five cities in states adjacent to Iowa - Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Madison, St. Louis and Kansas City -- are also in the top 15 of "best cities for new college grads" -- ie ahead of Tucson, Phoenix, or any city in the Southwest or on the West Coast. The article goes on to write (it seriously could have been written by Iowa's admissions office - do you secretly work for them?) as its top "Key Finding:" • College grads have more opportunities away from the coasts. Six cities in the top 10 are located in the Midwest: Cincinnati, Ohio; Columbus, Ohio; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; St. Louis, Missouri; Madison, Wisconsin and Indianapolis, Indiana. Though the Midwest has a reputation for affordability, many of these Midwestern cities are college towns that also excel for our fun score, with plenty of bars, restaurants and young people. All of which further reinforces the conclusion that if a factor in one's selection of college is picking a region where one might consider settling down afterward, as some here (not I) seem to recommend, then the choice between Iowa/Midwest and Arizona/Southwest is not a clear-cut one (notwithstanding the vehemence of some one-sided views on this thread), and if anything the survey data of opportunities for young grads seems to show a slight unexpected preference for midwestern cities over Arizonan cities. [/quote]
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