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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, churches teaching about procreation
Jesus did not talk about that, neither did apostle Paul
Either way,[b] the churches teaching is that the Pope cannot make a mistake[/b] and that is why they have added this new doctrine into the bible
It is all about making women feel guilty.

St Mary is still the saint she was to women before the days of contraception
We all still pray:
You who were able to conceive without sin, help us to sin without conceiving[/quote]

Look, I disagree with the Church's position on contraception, but your bolded statement simply is not true.  Read more about infallibility first.[/quote]

I'm not the earlier poster.  But:

1.  The Church's infallibility doctrine is about as convoluted a concept as one can imagine.  You have to admit, even many believers shake their heads at it.
2.  The Church has issued statements that it considers infallible, without invoking infallibility.  See women in the priesthood, where they dodge infallibility but claim that it is an unerring position.
3.  Regarding contraception, Humanae Vitae was in its own words written to correct a commissions' prior work because it was not "definitive and absolutely certain".  While it does not say it is infallible, for all intents and purposes it is treated that way by the Church.

So while the doctrine says that the Pope can make a mistake, it does not appear that the Church admits that it is fallible on the major pronouncements related to marriage, gender, and babies.

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