Anonymous
06/17/2021 17:42
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia."
Or more correctly in some part of NOVA DCUM circle.
Nah it’s in RVA and Central Virginia too.
And the Polish Army thought their cavalry armed with swords could stop German tanks in 1939. . .
Anonymous
06/17/2021 16:34
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia."
Or more correctly in some part of NOVA DCUM circle.
Nah it’s in RVA and Central Virginia too.
Anonymous
06/17/2021 13:54
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia."
Or more correctly in some part of NOVA DCUM circle.
Anonymous
06/17/2021 07:36
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
it has more prestige than Harvard/MIT combined "in Virginia."
Anonymous
06/16/2021 23:35
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
To be fair, Dartmouth is trash. When your most famous alums are Laura Ingraham and Dinesh D'Souza....SMH
UVA supporters always cite Rhodes Scholar winners as evidence of its preeminence. Dartmouth, with 4,400 undergraduates has had 63 Rhodes Scholars. UVA, with about 17,000 undergraduates, has had 55. On a per student basis, Dartmouth has produced 4.43X as many Rhodes Scholars.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 20:11
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
To be fair, Dartmouth is trash. When your most famous alums are Laura Ingraham and Dinesh D'Souza....SMH
Anonymous
06/16/2021 19:01
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
Which doesn't reflect well on the Commonwealth.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 18:23
Subject: Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where my UVA at?
#226. Striving for top 200.
#26 on rankings that people care about, stay mad kid.
which one is that?
Look up “uva rank” and it’s the first website dumbo.
i wasn't the #226 guy above. i was a new poster. why do uva folks so nasty?
#226 is UVA’s ranking at QS.
LOL. I didn't know the ranking goes that far DOWN. Sounds right though.
Just realized why people love QS rankings, it makes them feel better about their Arizona State and Michigan State degrees lmao.
Just realized why people hate QS rankings, it makes them feel bad about their UVA degrees. LMAO
US News still simps for UVA and until they stop UVA grads will be just fine.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 18:17
Subject: Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where my UVA at?
#226. Striving for top 200.
#26 on rankings that people care about, stay mad kid.
which one is that?
Look up “uva rank” and it’s the first website dumbo.
i wasn't the #226 guy above. i was a new poster. why do uva folks so nasty?
#226 is UVA’s ranking at QS.
LOL. I didn't know the ranking goes that far DOWN. Sounds right though.
Just realized why people love QS rankings, it makes them feel better about their Arizona State and Michigan State degrees lmao.
Just realized why people hate QS rankings, it makes them feel bad about their UVA degrees. LMAO
Nailed it!
Anonymous
06/16/2021 17:51
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
I would argue against that. The average undergrad at Cornell is far brighter than at UCB.
I will not address the prestige of these two schools; prestige, based on cultural and social preferences which were quite dubious in the past, is too subjective of a topic to have a civil discussion about.
But in terms of the actual merit of these schools, I would argue that Berkeley is a much more accomplished university. Berkeley’s arts and sciences, collectively, are only beaten by Harvard and Stanford. Berkeley’s law and business school is also better than Cornell’s. While it is true that the average undergraduate student at Cornell is better than Cal’s, Cornell’s better undergraduate quality isn’t enough to overcome Berkeley’s edge in basically everything else.
A school’s worth and reputation shouldn’t be entirely constructed by its undergraduate school.
Your obsession with rankings is hilarious. Berkeley churns out some utterly mediocre graduates.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 17:42
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
UVA has more prestige than Dartmouth in Virginia though.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 17:17
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
I would argue against that. The average undergrad at Cornell is far brighter than at UCB.
I will not address the prestige of these two schools; prestige, based on cultural and social preferences which were quite dubious in the past, is too subjective of a topic to have a civil discussion about.
But in terms of the actual merit of these schools, I would argue that Berkeley is a much more accomplished university. Berkeley’s arts and sciences, collectively, are only beaten by Harvard and Stanford. Berkeley’s law and business school is also better than Cornell’s. While it is true that the average undergraduate student at Cornell is better than Cal’s, Cornell’s better undergraduate quality isn’t enough to overcome Berkeley’s edge in basically everything else.
A school’s worth and reputation shouldn’t be entirely constructed by its undergraduate school.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 16:54
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
I would argue against that. The average undergrad at Cornell is far brighter than at UCB.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 16:49
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.
Berkeley doesn't claim to be a "Public Ivy."' Berkeley doesn't have to ride on anyone else's coat tails. It's the best public university in the world.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 16:47
Subject: Re:Top 10 Public Colleges in the US
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA and William and Mary are both still listed as Public Ivies. I see no reason to think otherwise.
Listed by who?
Nobody thinks these schools are Ivy equivalents. They're not even that great for public universities.
by the person who coined the term public ivy.
go look it up in Wikipedia. Counselors have been using the term for almost forty years.
It's a term coined to sell a book al la "Colleges that Change Lives." It has about as much merit. There are no "public ivies." There are no public schools that convey the prestige and name recognition that the Ivies do. The book hasn't been updated since 1985. You either got into an Ivy or you didn't. Get over it.
I would argue that Cal is far more prestigious than Cornell
Likely. But UVA isn't.