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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So, we now think it’s a good idea to force a few hundred thousand international students who are now in the US, a current covid hot spot, onto airplanes to scatter their germs around the world?[/quote]

[b]There may not even be flights to their home countries. What do they do then?[/b] [/quote]

DP. Eventually we'll see some of those students end up arrested by ICE and put into detention facilities where there is spread of the virus. Like the many other immigrants in those facilities whose plight we seem no longer to recognize. I can only pray that their stories get out and are highly publicized everywhere. [/quote]
+1.  Those students who can’t be immediately deported to their home countries will be detained indefinitely by ICE.  The virus will continue to spread in those detention facilities, and some students will die.  It is inevitable.

If you support this policy, you also support the utterly avoidable deaths of those students.  You can’t separate the two.[/quote]

Oh sweet Jesus. Stop your overdramatic speculation. They are not going to detain, jail, and mark for death all students who have no flights available as a first line response. [b]There are flights out of the country. [/b][/quote]

DP. There are flights out but do they go to every country? No. So people sit in detention.

It is not "overdramatic" to understand that if ICE is issuing a policy that students will be removed unless they remove themselves, those students will also be subject to arrest and detention and deportation.  It's not dramatic to know that detention of any kind is a perfect environment for spreading any illness, especially a highly contagious one that we now know spreads through the air. You understand the workings of neither ICE nor viruses.

I suspect you think that detention and deportation are only for the lowest of the low, impoverished, illegal border-crossers. Because they deserve it, right? 
Nope, detention is an equal opportunity problem. Students can and probably will end up there and end up sick. [/quote]

Does everyone need a direct flight? There may not be a flight directly from JFK to everywhere, but the student can catch a connecting flight. You are making a lot of unnecessary assumptions about me that actually just make a statement about you, seeing as how I shared no information about myself or my beliefs. I fully support international students, but [b]if they must leave, I believe they will be able to do so safely.[/b] [/quote]

RE: the bold: You are extremely ill-informed. Go back and read the post at 10:26 responding to you. It is not as simple as "just get on a flight to your home country." The fact that you think it is, indicates you really need to go look at what 10:26 is saying.

And if you start posts with "Sweet Jesus stop your overdramatic speculation" you get posters making assumptions. It is not dramatic to know that ICE can and does arrest, detain and deport, and it is ignorant to be unaware that many people languish in detention and don't get popped onto convenient flights to countries waiting with open arms. Why think that students, if they end up in ICE's hands, will be treated with more consideration than anyone else? There are professionals with long histories of work and community service in the US who have been arrested, detained and deported (or just held) despite whole communities fighting to keep them here. Students won't be treated any better than those people have been.

Of course students will try to get out and get home on their own so they don't end up in the ICE system at all. But-- well, go read 10:26. Those students still may have difficulty getting to their home countries. [/quote]

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