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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So, we now think it’s a good idea to force a few hundred thousand international students who are now in the US, a current covid hot spot, onto airplanes to scatter their germs around the world?[/quote]

[b]There may not even be flights to their home countries. What do they do then?[/b] [/quote]

DP. Eventually we'll see some of those students end up arrested by ICE and put into detention facilities where there is spread of the virus. Like the many other immigrants in those facilities whose plight we seem no longer to recognize. I can only pray that their stories get out and are highly publicized everywhere. [/quote]
+1.  Those students who can’t be immediately deported to their home countries will be detained indefinitely by ICE.  The virus will continue to spread in those detention facilities, and some students will die.  It is inevitable.

If you support this policy, you also support the utterly avoidable deaths of those students.  You can’t separate the two.[/quote]

Oh sweet Jesus. Stop your overdramatic speculation. They are not going to detain, jail, and mark for death all students who have no flights available as a first line response. [b]There are flights out of the country. [/b][/quote]

DP. There are flights out but do they go to every country? No. So people sit in detention.

It is not "overdramatic" to understand that if ICE is issuing a policy that students will be removed unless they remove themselves, those students will also be subject to arrest and detention and deportation.  It's not dramatic to know that detention of any kind is a perfect environment for spreading any illness, especially a highly contagious one that we now know spreads through the air. You understand the workings of neither ICE nor viruses.

I suspect you think that detention and deportation are only for the lowest of the low, impoverished, illegal border-crossers. Because they deserve it, right? 
Nope, detention is an equal opportunity problem. Students can and probably will end up there and end up sick. [/quote]

Does everyone need a direct flight? There may not be a flight directly from JFK to everywhere, but the student can catch a connecting flight. You are making a lot of unnecessary assumptions about me that actually just make a statement about you, seeing as how I shared no information about myself or my beliefs. I fully support international students, but if they must leave, I believe they will be able to do so safely. [/quote]

Pp, I don’t if you’re really this ignorant or just pretending. The airports IN MANY OF THEIR HOME COUNTRIES are closed. So, no, no airline is going to allow them to board a flight to Paris or Amsterdam or London when there is no flight to their home country. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Sure they can leave when the airports reopen, but you must acknowledge the difficulty this is putting students in. Do they sell their things or do they put them in storage? Do they give up on their student housing / rented apartments or keep them in case studies in person resume in spring? They would need to spend additional money on return tickets. And then again to come back and reestablish their living logistics. They are not tourists, these students had life established here and they are being thrown needlessly in turmoil. It’s one thing not to issue visas to new students whose universities will be teaching only online, but it’s a completely different ballgame kicking students out during a pandemic.[/quote]

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