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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Just like I want to know how many kids you have at home that ma[/b]y cause issues when I'm hiring you, I want to know what kind of special accommodations you need to work for me. A standing desk and a special chair? Done. Want to balance on a ball? Take two! [b]If I give you a project that takes 3 others on your team 10 days to complete and you tell me you n[/b]eed 20... eh, not so much. Why would I hire someone who needs double the amount of time to complete one task? For the same salary I can find one who can do it in 10 days like the others. I predict more self employment and entrepreneurship in the future, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. N[b]o way these ADHD kids to adults are going to make it in a normal 9-5 setting [/b]with strict deadlines. I bet disclosing their special accommodations would dissuade parents from having their kids tank the screening tests to get the diagnosis. If I require you to send me you college transcript a[b]nd I saw that you made a 4.0 at Yale but needed twice the time of the 3.5 kid from JMU, I'm passing on you. [/b] [/quote] First and last bolding: Illegal hiring practices. Second bolding: A complete misunderstanding of LDs and how they work. Second to last bolding: [b]And yet, ADHD adults RIGHT now are in the workplace. And they have been for a couple or so decades of diagnoses and accommodations. And they are doing just fine.[/b] Overall, you are wrong on just about every single count. [/quote] Again.. and somehow, these adults managed to do alright without adjustments to the SATs. I don't know.. we hear a lot of people complaining about the younger millenials in the work place. Maybe they were given too much accommodations when they were younger and now as adults, they have a harder time dealing with life.[/quote] They were given accommodations, it just was not documented. Teachers had more freedom... colleges didn't report average scores for US News rankings. [/quote] My husband went through life with ADHD without knowing it. Although he is now highly successful, it was truly a struggle for him in college. He went to an terrible public high school, and did fine there (because the school was not challenging). But he was admitted to a now top 10 university and did not fare so well. He was pre med. His biggest issue was organization and staying on task. He graduated from this school and because his grades were not so great did not get into the med school he wanted. He went on to get his masters in microbiology in a regional school. After a lot of hard work, he eventually got into a top med school did extremely well in academic medicine. He eventually left medicine for consulting, and it was there that he realized he might have ADHD and executive functioning challenges because the job required management skills. He has managed to compensate by learning executive functioning skills, but because he is gifted intellectually, he is extremely successful. Plenty of people with disabilities are doing even better than "normal" people. My husband is a perfect example. That being said, if he had a diagnosis and accommodations in the earlier years, he probably would have done better in the university and gotten into med school sooner. It is not unfair to not provide people accommodations needed to help them thrive. AND you can't claim that people with disabilities will be failures in the "real world." It simply is not true.[/quote]
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