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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All of those profiles are for ENROLLED students while Oberlin's is listed for ADMITTED students. It is not a fair comparison. [/quote] The actual number for Oberlin freshman ACT is 29-31, the grades are b+ a link to the cds which is posted above has much lower numbers. Judging by the scores and the grades of the admitted students it’s not top 5-11. It’s more like 30 where the US news has placed the school. 30 is still good ... I don’t understand the need to inflate the schools stats. [/quote] Can you provide the link to the source of your data? [/quote] 29-31 is still very close in range to their historical record. Also, one quirky thing about Oberlin is that they translate all GPA data to unweighted for CDS whereas many other schools don't. I think it's because they have a sizeable group of students from private schools that don't weight. You'd think they'd try to game the system more though.[/quote] Act 29-31 it totally different than 30-34... as in good school v. ivy league.[/quote] I wrote that in response to those who are arguing Oberlin is on a "downward trend" when I think they seem to have remarkable consistency in the history of attracting strong students in a tight range over decades. I'm not the PP who said their stats were the same as the top 5-11 schools. (I also think these minute distinctions are meaningless). One thing that interests me is many selective LAC schools choose to have a very tight range of similar scoring students. It seems a bit homogenous--and that it's hard to argue that you're holistic in admissions when so many of your students fall within 30 points on the SAT. But I wonder if there's a desire to have primarily students of similar basic intellectual capacity so that becomes less of an influence in college? Like you all know all your fellow students are roughly equivalent in basic smarts, so what makes a difference is drive, work ethic, discipline,creativity, character etc.--things that individuals may have more power to change? [/quote]
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