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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread came to mind when reading the article below.

http://fox2now.com/2018/05/30/stop-bizarrely-lenient-attitude-toward-disciplining-children-teachers-open-letter-strikes-a-nerve/[/quote]

It's an interesting article.  I think these discipline issues are hard because good discipline practices are not one-size-fits-all and zero tolerance.  But sometimes kids do clearly need to be called on their antics.  We shouldn't punish kids for not doing things they actually can't do - but it's hard to know the line between can't and won't and just aren't.  Good discipline practices require relationship, connection, high expectations, and, at times, forgiveness.  I don't know.  My kids are young and save their best behavior for school.  If I saw and elementary school kids having a tantrum at school - flailing, hitting, spitting, cursing - I would wonder what's going on in that kid's life.  Middle schoolers and high schoolers can be different.  My sister spent a couple years as a middle school teacher.  She actually really liked the kids and their age/developmental stage, but she did not get support from the administration on behavioral issues.  The kids would accuse her of things she hadn't done, and the admins would not back her up on as simple a discipline request as requiring that everyone help clean up the classroom at the end of the period (it was art).  Kids were complaining that she was making them clean up stuff that they had not individually used, and the administration could not get behind a simple rule that we all help clean up the classroom at the end of the period!  How is a teacher supposed to make sure that they know exactly what materials/supplies each of 30 students used so that they only ask them to clean up what they themselves actually used.  It was ridiculous.  She went back to elementary school and is much happier.   [/quote]

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