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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Schools usually honor requests to avoid another child, so you can ask why this request was not honored. However for all the rest, shame on you, OP! What you expected was highly unethical and immoral. I have been on the PTA Board for years, and would not tolerate it if my child received favors as a result. That is NOT why I volunteer. I want to help all the students, not my children in particular. And as the parent of a child with special needs, I find your remark about the slow learner particularly offensive. At our MCPS school, children with special needs do not slow down the rest of the class - they have aides in the classroom, who help others as well as the child in question, so it's actually a bonus for everyone. You are a disgusting human being. [/quote] I agree with you that OP's request was improper. But you have unrealistically rose colored glasses in claiming special needs students don't slow down the class and actually benefit others because of aides. In truth, it is a mixed bag and depends on a lot of factors, including the SN kid(s) and the aide(s). I've had circumstances where there have been frequent, significant disruptions and others with few disruptions and the aides were able and willing to help other kids. I am not suggesting the SN kid shouldn't be in the class or get extra help, but that extra help does sometimes come at the expense of other kids and the pace of the class. Pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone. Also, remember not all SN kids have aides, exacerbating the problems and taking away some of the potential benefit.[/quote] Too bad. SN kids have a right to be in the classroom. If you don't get that, go private. [/quote] Can you read? That was my point. They do have that right. I just thought the [b]PP was being dishonesty [/b]in saying it was always a positive for other kids in the class.[/quote] PP you accuse of being dishonest. I specified that this is the way it is in our elementary school, where we have spent 6 years so far (2 kids), and where I volunteer extensively. Of course there are disruptions! But when I observe the children leading others by the hand, accompanying and explaining things, telling newcomers not to make fun of certain of their habits, etc, the advantages FAR OUTWEIGH the disadvantages. And that comes from the top, PP. Our MCPS school is known for how it handles children with special needs, it is a center for our cluster, and receives students who cannot be accommodated in nearby schools. The school counselor, principal, EVERYONE, is trained and very hands-on in that regard. It creates a culture of acceptance. Children with or without particular needs, who become disruptive, are escorted out of classrooms, walked in the corridors, sent to the gym or outside. The younger students have two, sometimes three, recess periods. I have actually observed that it's the children without a diagnosis that are the most disruptive! It's so easy and nasty to target the children with visible special needs - but the reality is that with a willing administration and trained teachers, instruction can progress at any level MCPS chooses to provide. They are all pretty low, but that's a topic for another thread... :-) [/quote] The problem comes in with kids like mine who cannot handle all the disruptions and distractions. The school then complains they have attention issues. No one else sees attention issues and they refuse to recognize that the classroom environment is counterproductive. Its highly distracting to have kids pulled out multiple times a day. Its highly distracting to see kids walking the halls. Young kids don't get why xxx can act that way and why they cannot and will copy behaviors. Some of the kids who have more severe SN are physical with the other kids, like in mine's situation. I worry at some point after getting hit so many times that mine will hit back. Mine will get in trouble, those others will not. Our school claims to be very SN friendly. My child gets services that are not catered to their needs but rather the lowest functioning in that group. Its a waste of time for them to be pulled out of class for things that are not their particular need. The teachers from my observations don't have the experience to deal with all SN and really only understand a few and the rest of the kids are lumped within those SN. When you complain your child is being assaulted daily, they ignore and say there is nothing they can do because of the SN. It was a nightmare getting my child to school daily and on many days they'd come home crying as they were hit, grabbed or somehow attacked multiple times a day. If we could afford private, we would do it. (and agree this doesn't apply to SN only as there are non-SN kids who are very disruptive or mean to other kids but we were lumped in a majority SN classroom)[/quote]
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