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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] That's not exactly how it went down, did it? More like this: Muslim: All Muslims are required to study Quranic Arabic because you can't understand the Quran unless you read it in the original form. Translations are incompetent. Me: Actually, most Muslims don't understand Quranic Arabic. Muslim: No, all children study the Quran in the original Arabic! Me: They are taught to recite it like a collection of sounds and told the stories behind them - a subjective, highly interpretative process that doesn't move them any closer to the command of Quranic Arabic. Muslim: I'm a product of Islamic school. You gonna argue with that? Muslim: Women have equal rights in Islam. Me: No they don't, they are disadvantaged in right to inheritance, right of divorce and right to marital property. Muslim: Equal doesn't mean identical, equal means justice, equal value and a whole bunch of other things. Me: Actually no, equal means equal but if you want to believe equal means something else, then whatever. Muslim: Islam liberated women captives. Me: No, Islam institutionalized capturing them. Muslim: No! They were treated nicely! Their sexual needs got covered! If they got pregnant, they were freed! Me: Actually no, they were freed in that case when the master died. Muslim: No, no! When they got pregnant! Me: Here are two fiqh books that say otherwise. Muslim: Here's a bbc link that says what I say. Me: Actually, that link says they were liberated after the owner died. Muslim: You gaptoothed STD slut you! Muslim: Islam granted women voting rights! Here's the verse. Me: Actually, that verse is like a background check for new female immigrants. Muslim: No it isn't! It's exactly like voting! Me: And men were never asked for the same. Muslim: Yes they were! just because it's not in the Quran doesn't mean that they weren't! Me: Actually yes, that's exactly what it means. Something more like that. That's more like it. [/quote] Feeling nostalgic for those 10 pages on "equality = inequality." You forgot: Muslim: Islam is growing faster in the US by conversion than by immigration. Lots of us: prove it. Muslim: here is a link to a Pew survey. Lots of us: the Pew survey actually says the opposite, that the conversion numbers are about 1/4 of the immigration numbers. Muslim: You Christian-evangelical-crusader-Islamophobe! I'm going to start a new thread to complain about Islamophobes! (And here we are now....) Also Muslim: Islam gives divorce rights to women! Lots of us: men can divorce by telling his wife "Talak" three times while women have to go to court to ask for a divorce. Then the man only pays alimony for three months (long enough to ensure she's not carrying his child) and she loses her children if she remarries. Muslim: (no contradiction of these points) Islamophobe! Stop mocking Islam![/quote]
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