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It's never hopeless, but it depends on your outlook:

I am resigned to Trump being President next year. Biden and his close circle of aides and relatives obviously don't get it, and after this shooting event, fewer people are pushing him to step aside.

So it seems Democrats want to learn their lesson the hard way - with 4 more years of Trump. Perhaps they're spend it mulling over all their mistakes, and come back stronger in 2028.

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Another Trump administration will do untold damage to this country. If not just in policy, then in psychological and cultural damage. It's sad that Democratic leadership wants to sit back and wait for 2028. That is too late and we all know it. [/quote]

PP you replied to. Realistically, no, it won't do "untold damage". It won't be pleasant, particularly for hated minorities like Arabs and Muslims, and women will have more difficult time seeking reproductive healthcare, that's for sure. Immigrants will get the short end of the stick, international policy will be all over the place, because there won't be a policy, just Trump's whim.

But no, there won't be a dictatorship for life, concentration camps, death penalty for women who miscarry or abort.

So we'll weather it if we have to.

I agree that it would be so much better if Democrats could see their way to being more ruthless with Biden.
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Not PP but I don’t think anyone really knows what will happen.  The somewhat sane grown-ups who joined the Trump administration the first time around are unlikely to come back.  Who is going to be calling the shots or reigning him from starting a new war?  I also worry because we have family in Eastern Europe and Putin is likely to be emboldened to expand his campaign due to Trump’s complete disinterest in NATO.

I think Dems thought the threat to abortuon and women’s health care in general would be enough type galvanize voters this election, but it clearly isn’t.  I don’t know how much further we will have to fall before it does.[/quote]

PP you replied to. I hear you on all of that. DH and I are western Europeans, so not as concerned as those in Eastern Europe, but still concerned for the future of NATO and the possibility of a land war.

We'll just have to deal with the uncertainty, I'm afraid. [/quote]

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