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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trump will end this terrible war.  The day cannot come soon enough.[/quote]
Voting for trump would be against all my interests but I am seriously considering voting for him just to end the war. I think both countries’ governments are bad, though Russia’s is worse, but I want the war to stop and ordinary people to stop bearing the brunt of their political battles. [/quote]

Hah!  Trump would love to turn the US INTO Russia, but he'll never get another chance.  Trump will never again be President of anything, well, except maybe the Federal Prison Golf Club?

In the meantime, Wagner is "using their ammunition to stop the fleeing servicemen of the Russian army"
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1657126013002809346?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Ukrainian tanks are getting better and better as every day passes, and the question is what does Putin have left and what can he get his hands on?  He might be pulling weapons from South Africa now - a few of which could be worrisome (ex. 155mm howitzers, thermal imagers, MRL, MILAN ER AT, Leopard 2's, Modernized Centurion tanks, drones, SAM's, etc.)

https://news.yahoo.com/promised-challenger-2-tanks-already-131912551.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-deliver-abrams-tanks-ukrainian-084900199.html

Just as Palestine is locked in a battle with Israel that went on for years, there is a very real possibility that this conflict will drag out as well.  Russia will need to expand southward if they want to rebuild the Soviet Union again, but given how well they do in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the 'stans' (Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Kyrgyzstan Turkmenistan Tajikistan), etc. they're pretty screwed.  Sure, the Russian military can try to keep taking Ukraine, but losing 1/4 million child-rearing-aged men a year is probably a bad idea.  Besides, has ANYONE EVER seen the Swiss take sides before?  You know things are bad when even the conflict-adverse, money-loving Swiss bankers flip you the bird.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/swiss-parliament-passes-decision-export-050752690.html

The way I see this resolving with minimal future losses is once the Ukrainians drive out Russia from their territory (by force, since the Russian Government seems too stupid to pull out themselves), then either the UN but more likely NATO, establishes a no-fire buffer zone in the currently occupied territories.  If the Russian military is dumb enough to shoot at NATO troops, NATO (unlike the UN) shoots back, so the best move would be for Russia to lick it's wounds while Ukraine reconstructs.  UNHCR helps repatriate Ukrainian refugees and brokers the return of Russian bodies scattered across the country, OSCE helps re-integrate the formerly-occupied territories back into the governing system of Ukraine, and NATO De-mining helps Ukraine re-establish territory safe to live in.  In the meantime, Ukraine, now bristling with western weaponry make's it's formal bid to join NATO to keep this from ever happening again.[/quote]

The question is, when will the Ukraine be able to drive Russia out? What’s your theory? [/quote]

If Ukraine can secure airspace that reaches to crimea then yes.  They need more patriot batteries and for every on battery they need 3 decoys.  Russia does not want them close to the border because they can down all their long range airborne missiles they fire fro their airspace.

If Ukraine and move air defense forward really all they need is napalm.  It is highly effective against the terrestrial defenses the Russians have built in the east.  It is cheap, super effective and terrifying.  Literally, the worst way to die short of serial killer days of torture.

If Ukraine can walk air defense to east and start using their air power with anti personnel munitions Russians will die by the thousands per hour.[/quote]

Napalm (or the modern version of it that everyone still calls napalm) is being used.  Mostly by Russians in their flamethrower and flame tanks.
Ukraine would need heavy bombers capable of carpet bombing large areas or low flying attach craft to accurately hit trenches.
They do not really have either of those to deliver in quantity.

But yes; if they could hit a few concentrations of troops with firebombs it would have a huge psychological effect.

Napalm has killed more Japanese that the nuclear weapons we dropped.  It is a very, very effective antipersonnel weapon.  And super inexpensive.[/quote]

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