Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 22:22     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Post 05/15/2023 22:19     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Trump will end this terrible war. The day cannot come soon enough.

Voting for trump would be against all my interests but I am seriously considering voting for him just to end the war. I think both countries’ governments are bad, though Russia’s is worse, but I want the war to stop and ordinary people to stop bearing the brunt of their political battles.


Hah! Trump would love to turn the US INTO Russia, but he'll never get another chance. Trump will never again be President of anything, well, except maybe the Federal Prison Golf Club?

In the meantime, Wagner is "using their ammunition to stop the fleeing servicemen of the Russian army"
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1657126013002809346?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Ukrainian tanks are getting better and better as every day passes, and the question is what does Putin have left and what can he get his hands on? He might be pulling weapons from South Africa now - a few of which could be worrisome (ex. 155mm howitzers, thermal imagers, MRL, MILAN ER AT, Leopard 2's, Modernized Centurion tanks, drones, SAM's, etc.)

https://news.yahoo.com/promised-challenger-2-tanks-already-131912551.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-deliver-abrams-tanks-ukrainian-084900199.html

Just as Palestine is locked in a battle with Israel that went on for years, there is a very real possibility that this conflict will drag out as well. Russia will need to expand southward if they want to rebuild the Soviet Union again, but given how well they do in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the 'stans' (Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Kyrgyzstan Turkmenistan Tajikistan), etc. they're pretty screwed. Sure, the Russian military can try to keep taking Ukraine, but losing 1/4 million child-rearing-aged men a year is probably a bad idea. Besides, has ANYONE EVER seen the Swiss take sides before? You know things are bad when even the conflict-adverse, money-loving Swiss bankers flip you the bird.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/swiss-parliament-passes-decision-export-050752690.html

The way I see this resolving with minimal future losses is once the Ukrainians drive out Russia from their territory (by force, since the Russian Government seems too stupid to pull out themselves), then either the UN but more likely NATO, establishes a no-fire buffer zone in the currently occupied territories. If the Russian military is dumb enough to shoot at NATO troops, NATO (unlike the UN) shoots back, so the best move would be for Russia to lick it's wounds while Ukraine reconstructs. UNHCR helps repatriate Ukrainian refugees and brokers the return of Russian bodies scattered across the country, OSCE helps re-integrate the formerly-occupied territories back into the governing system of Ukraine, and NATO De-mining helps Ukraine re-establish territory safe to live in. In the meantime, Ukraine, now bristling with western weaponry make's it's formal bid to join NATO to keep this from ever happening again.


The question is, when will the Ukraine be able to drive Russia out? What’s your theory?


If Ukraine can secure airspace that reaches to crimea then yes. They need more patriot batteries and for every on battery they need 3 decoys. Russia does not want them close to the border because they can down all their long range airborne missiles they fire fro their airspace.

If Ukraine and move air defense forward really all they need is napalm. It is highly effective against the terrestrial defenses the Russians have built in the east. It is cheap, super effective and terrifying. Literally, the worst way to die short of serial killer days of torture.

If Ukraine can walk air defense to east and start using their air power with anti personnel munitions Russians will die by the thousands per hour.


Napalm (or the modern version of it that everyone still calls napalm) is being used. Mostly by Russians in their flamethrower and flame tanks.
Ukraine would need heavy bombers capable of carpet bombing large areas or low flying attach craft to accurately hit trenches.
They do not really have either of those to deliver in quantity.

But yes; if they could hit a few concentrations of troops with firebombs it would have a huge psychological effect.

Napalm has killed more Japanese that the nuclear weapons we dropped. It is a very, very effective antipersonnel weapon. And super inexpensive.


The Russians already used their incendiary weapons. No this is not videogame footage.

[twitter]https://english.nv.ua/nation/nearly-2-800-russian-troops-remain-in-belarus-ukraine-says-news-50321508.html[/twitter]
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 22:14     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Yes they gave a bs answer. Yes it would be a great bit of schadenfreude for the Russian population, that is so full of blood lust that they cheer on and celebrate rape, torture, and the bombing of kindergartens, to feel the suffering they have imposed on others themselves. Nevertheless, it is not in Ukraine's interests to do so. Besides, the Russian Army rapes themselves constantly, both literally and figuratively. Of course that doesn't mean that a sojourn through Belgorad is off the table or that bases in Rostov are unacceptable targets.


I know quite a few Russians and they are scared and sad about this war.
It was not their choice.
I know there are different ones too but they aren’t all like that.
I know it’s a thing to hate on Russians now though


Lol, Russians aren't victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5yvjyJdDW0


Many are.
Many didn’t choose the war


Sure they did. They chose to follow Putin.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 22:13     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Russia has lost. Our military general announced it last week. Russia was drafting old men and has no weapons. They’re going out with a whimper.


LOL and then he also said Ukraine needs a hundred kazillion dollars to fight this pathetic army of old men with no weapons because otherwise they'd be scaling the Eiffel Tower tomorrow.

Logic is out of fashion.


Well, I'm not the person you're arguing with, but here's some logic for you.

Given that Russia has 25 times the land area to govern, but started the war with only 3 times the population of Ukraine, I recommend you play Civilization IV (Civ V+ is too difficult to see the under-the-hood mechanics at work..) to understand the impact of that scenario.

Before the war, Russia maintained about 1.45M troops, with 830K active soldiers.
https://www.statista.com/topics/9957/armed-forces-of-russia/
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/military-army-size

Using that as a baseline, last I checked Russia shooting for a 1.5M call up?

"Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions; the invaders have concentrated 152,000 personnel there and are preparing for defense."
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3709361-intelligence-reports-number-of-russian-troops-in-zaporizhzhia-kherson-regions.html
"2,800 Russian troops remain in Belarus"
https://english.nv.ua/nation/nearly-2-800-russian-troops-remain-in-belarus-ukraine-says-news-50321508.html

That means there could be up to 547K Russia troops 'somewhere' (i.e. dead, wounded, missing, in training / reserves, etc.).

But there's a problem. That's 547K times the number of uniforms, boots, meals, weapons, ammo, sleeping bags, etc. and as we've seen, there is only one real source they can pull this gear from now - their border garrisons. That means stripping their last bit of equipment from across the country and gamble China or India doesn't see this as an expansion opportunity.

I know someone will say, oh, Russia can just manufacture everything they need, but no, apparently they can't.

"The head of Russia's federal crime agency on Saturday suggested that key sectors of the economy should be returned to state ownership to support Moscow's war in Ukraine."
"We are essentially talking about economic security in a war," Alexander Bastrykin, head of the Investigative Committee, told a conference that was streamed online. "Let's go along the path of nationalising the main sectors of our economy."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/head-russias-crime-agency-suggests-153238532.html

When the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia (responsible for anti-corruption) says it's time to nationalize the main sectors of the Russian economy, he's basically (Soviet-style) saying they want to order Russians to work in factories, etc. or they're committing treason. Reading between the lines, no more Free Market Economy, foreign investment or stocks. It also means that, yes, Russia is entering into a full-wartime economy.

Folks, under Soviet doctrine, there aren't that many rabbits in the hat left.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 21:51     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt?


Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction. What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations? Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians? There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days. Did your guy give up the coordinates?

Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right?


Wow you guys work fast. I just heard about tonight's unstoppable hypersonic khinzal and came to laugh about how last century's patriot missile batteries shot them down again. But you all were on top of things and ready. Kudos to your work ethic. It must be so difficult to keep up appearances these days.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 21:35     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Yes they gave a bs answer. Yes it would be a great bit of schadenfreude for the Russian population, that is so full of blood lust that they cheer on and celebrate rape, torture, and the bombing of kindergartens, to feel the suffering they have imposed on others themselves. Nevertheless, it is not in Ukraine's interests to do so. Besides, the Russian Army rapes themselves constantly, both literally and figuratively. Of course that doesn't mean that a sojourn through Belgorad is off the table or that bases in Rostov are unacceptable targets.


I know quite a few Russians and they are scared and sad about this war.
It was not their choice.
I know there are different ones too but they aren’t all like that.
I know it’s a thing to hate on Russians now though


Lol, Russians aren't victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5yvjyJdDW0


Many are.
Many didn’t choose the war


Nah. This is not Iraq. And Iraq is the last war in a 100 years that is suspect for an American “invasion”. Even if Iraq was unjustified America still was not as evil as Russia in the execution of the war. And Iraq was after America went thru 9/11; which was not an ideological attack- it was a real attack.

Russians have been orcs/savages long before February of 2022; just now the world gets to see how despicable their culture and government really is.

Russia has been doing this (on a smaller scale) for over 20 years; they just got caught being greedy and are back to being the scourge of the planet with North Korea.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 21:13     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for a western source to cover it, but it looks like the warehouse the Ukrainians were using to store depleted uranium(DU) rounds the UK gave them got destroyed in a missile strike. Gamma radiation is apparently off the charts in Khmelnitsky and DU dust is spreading over the whole region. What environmental impact this will pose in the long run can only be guessed at, but use of DU in the gulf wars has been linked to cancer clusters.


Thanks UK
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Post 05/15/2023 21:12     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Yes they gave a bs answer. Yes it would be a great bit of schadenfreude for the Russian population, that is so full of blood lust that they cheer on and celebrate rape, torture, and the bombing of kindergartens, to feel the suffering they have imposed on others themselves. Nevertheless, it is not in Ukraine's interests to do so. Besides, the Russian Army rapes themselves constantly, both literally and figuratively. Of course that doesn't mean that a sojourn through Belgorad is off the table or that bases in Rostov are unacceptable targets.


I know quite a few Russians and they are scared and sad about this war.
It was not their choice.
I know there are different ones too but they aren’t all like that.
I know it’s a thing to hate on Russians now though


Lol, Russians aren't victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5yvjyJdDW0


Many are.
Many didn’t choose the war
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 21:10     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt?


Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction. What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations? Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians? There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days. Did your guy give up the coordinates?

Words words words.
You think it was ok for kids and old people in Hiroshima to die? It was all worth it, right?
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 18:05     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for a western source to cover it, but it looks like the warehouse the Ukrainians were using to store depleted uranium(DU) rounds the UK gave them got destroyed in a missile strike. Gamma radiation is apparently off the charts in Khmelnitsky and DU dust is spreading over the whole region. What environmental impact this will pose in the long run can only be guessed at, but use of DU in the gulf wars has been linked to cancer clusters.


The spike happened before the strike: https://imgur.com/a/5WtFhBB

The spike is nowhere near off the charts.
https://news.mit.edu/1994/safe-0105

Depleted uranium doesn't give off gamma radiation.
https://www.wise-uranium.org/rup.html

The site was most likely another old soviet legacy storage dump.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78B04560A002400010115-5.pdf


Believe the person you responded to was Comrade Trollski, who is quite creative with his anti-Ukraine conspiracy theories!
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 14:49     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

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Anonymous wrote:Trump will end this terrible war. The day cannot come soon enough.

Voting for trump would be against all my interests but I am seriously considering voting for him just to end the war. I think both countries’ governments are bad, though Russia’s is worse, but I want the war to stop and ordinary people to stop bearing the brunt of their political battles.


Hah! Trump would love to turn the US INTO Russia, but he'll never get another chance. Trump will never again be President of anything, well, except maybe the Federal Prison Golf Club?

In the meantime, Wagner is "using their ammunition to stop the fleeing servicemen of the Russian army"
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1657126013002809346?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Ukrainian tanks are getting better and better as every day passes, and the question is what does Putin have left and what can he get his hands on? He might be pulling weapons from South Africa now - a few of which could be worrisome (ex. 155mm howitzers, thermal imagers, MRL, MILAN ER AT, Leopard 2's, Modernized Centurion tanks, drones, SAM's, etc.)

https://news.yahoo.com/promised-challenger-2-tanks-already-131912551.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-deliver-abrams-tanks-ukrainian-084900199.html

Just as Palestine is locked in a battle with Israel that went on for years, there is a very real possibility that this conflict will drag out as well. Russia will need to expand southward if they want to rebuild the Soviet Union again, but given how well they do in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the 'stans' (Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Kyrgyzstan Turkmenistan Tajikistan), etc. they're pretty screwed. Sure, the Russian military can try to keep taking Ukraine, but losing 1/4 million child-rearing-aged men a year is probably a bad idea. Besides, has ANYONE EVER seen the Swiss take sides before? You know things are bad when even the conflict-adverse, money-loving Swiss bankers flip you the bird.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/swiss-parliament-passes-decision-export-050752690.html

The way I see this resolving with minimal future losses is once the Ukrainians drive out Russia from their territory (by force, since the Russian Government seems too stupid to pull out themselves), then either the UN but more likely NATO, establishes a no-fire buffer zone in the currently occupied territories. If the Russian military is dumb enough to shoot at NATO troops, NATO (unlike the UN) shoots back, so the best move would be for Russia to lick it's wounds while Ukraine reconstructs. UNHCR helps repatriate Ukrainian refugees and brokers the return of Russian bodies scattered across the country, OSCE helps re-integrate the formerly-occupied territories back into the governing system of Ukraine, and NATO De-mining helps Ukraine re-establish territory safe to live in. In the meantime, Ukraine, now bristling with western weaponry make's it's formal bid to join NATO to keep this from ever happening again.


The question is, when will the Ukraine be able to drive Russia out? What’s your theory?


If Ukraine can secure airspace that reaches to crimea then yes. They need more patriot batteries and for every on battery they need 3 decoys. Russia does not want them close to the border because they can down all their long range airborne missiles they fire fro their airspace.

If Ukraine and move air defense forward really all they need is napalm. It is highly effective against the terrestrial defenses the Russians have built in the east. It is cheap, super effective and terrifying. Literally, the worst way to die short of serial killer days of torture.

If Ukraine can walk air defense to east and start using their air power with anti personnel munitions Russians will die by the thousands per hour.


Napalm (or the modern version of it that everyone still calls napalm) is being used. Mostly by Russians in their flamethrower and flame tanks.
Ukraine would need heavy bombers capable of carpet bombing large areas or low flying attach craft to accurately hit trenches.
They do not really have either of those to deliver in quantity.

But yes; if they could hit a few concentrations of troops with firebombs it would have a huge psychological effect.

Napalm has killed more Japanese that the nuclear weapons we dropped. It is a very, very effective antipersonnel weapon. And super inexpensive.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 14:14     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for a western source to cover it, but it looks like the warehouse the Ukrainians were using to store depleted uranium(DU) rounds the UK gave them got destroyed in a missile strike. Gamma radiation is apparently off the charts in Khmelnitsky and DU dust is spreading over the whole region. What environmental impact this will pose in the long run can only be guessed at, but use of DU in the gulf wars has been linked to cancer clusters.


The spike happened before the strike: https://imgur.com/a/5WtFhBB

The spike is nowhere near off the charts.
https://news.mit.edu/1994/safe-0105

Depleted uranium doesn't give off gamma radiation.
https://www.wise-uranium.org/rup.html

The site was most likely another old soviet legacy storage dump.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78B04560A002400010115-5.pdf
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 13:37     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Still waiting for a western source to cover it, but it looks like the warehouse the Ukrainians were using to store depleted uranium(DU) rounds the UK gave them got destroyed in a missile strike. Gamma radiation is apparently off the charts in Khmelnitsky and DU dust is spreading over the whole region. What environmental impact this will pose in the long run can only be guessed at, but use of DU in the gulf wars has been linked to cancer clusters.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 08:48     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Yes they gave a bs answer. Yes it would be a great bit of schadenfreude for the Russian population, that is so full of blood lust that they cheer on and celebrate rape, torture, and the bombing of kindergartens, to feel the suffering they have imposed on others themselves. Nevertheless, it is not in Ukraine's interests to do so. Besides, the Russian Army rapes themselves constantly, both literally and figuratively. Of course that doesn't mean that a sojourn through Belgorad is off the table or that bases in Rostov are unacceptable targets.


I know quite a few Russians and they are scared and sad about this war.
It was not their choice.
I know there are different ones too but they aren’t all like that.
I know it’s a thing to hate on Russians now though


Lol, Russians aren't victims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5yvjyJdDW0
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2023 08:43     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I really want to see Ukraine start hitting western Russian cities. That would be fun to see Russians finally getting a taste of their own medicine.
The problem is Ukraine has to use its own weapons to blow up stuff in Russia so it will be a while for the fun to begin.


That wouldn't be fun at all. Notwithstanding Putin being a fascist aggressor who ordered an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, those Russian cities are packed full of men, women, and children that I assume I would like very much if I ever got a chance to know them.


You are correct. The previous statement was no doubt written by someone who has never been endangered by any sort of war, and is not planning to go and help Ukraine fight.
I hear some of this sentiment from those who had left Ukraine many years ago (citing corruption, low quality of life, antisemitism and what not) but now are suddenly full of bloodthirst to those who have nothing to do with decision making and are suffering from those decisions (though yes to a much lesser extent than many Ukrainians).


DP what bullsh#t answer. Russians need to feel the full horror of what they have done in the Ukraine. It is past time to destroy Russians civilian infrastructure and target civilians through out Russia.


Should Americans feel what the Vietnamese or Japanese felt?


Lol, someone doesn't know anything about the Japanese in WW2 or the Viet Cong.

But enough about the distraction. What's the current line on the Pirozghin revelations? Was he trying to double cross Shiogu or the Ukrainians? There's been quite a few Colonels and above targeted over the last few days. Did your guy give up the coordinates?