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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's simple. If one poster says patently misleading or superficial things, then other posters are going to complete or correct these statements. If I post on DCUM that the US has been a force for peace in Iraq for the last 20 years, wouldn't you, quite reasonably, want to challenge me?

Same thing when you state flatly that women are equal to men in Islam. Many of us know enough to understand that the rules about divorce and inheritance are actually quite unequal.

It's not "hate speech" to point out these unequal rules.

It's strange, in fact, that you think that describing Islam's undisputed rules about women's unequal inheritance and divorce rights is "hate speech." Now maybe you don't want these unequal rules to be pointed out at all. But why? If you're not trying to convert, then why can you object when you start something and leave a lot of blanks that others fill in? Or is the problem that we don't see truth in these rules?

PS. Anybody looking for a laugh can check pages 24-25 of this thread, where PP said we Western women are all gap-toothed rednecks with STDs.[/quote]

Oh puhhhhhleassseeee. And for anybody who really wants a laugh,  a summary of this thread and the genuine "challenges" Muslim posters faced:

Muslim: Children are taught the Quran in 7th century Arabic and taught the meaning of some suras.
IslamHater: okay, but do they know the translation for every single word in the Quran?
Muslim: how can they when they are children and the Quran is hundreds of pages long? Learning it is a life long endeavor.
IslamHater: AHA! See! They don't know what they are reciting!

Muslim: the majority of Muslims learn the Quran in its original language. Devout ones learn Quranic Arabic.
IslamHater: 95% of Muslims don't know what they are reciting.
Muslim: if most all children are taught the meaning of the suras they learn in schools, and its been this way for hundreds of years, how can 95% not have any idea of what they recite?
IslamHater: proof: Afghanistan has a 23% literacy rate
Muslim: but why use Afghanistan as representative of the world when it has one one of the lowest literacy rates?

IslamHater: Arab superiority is a big problem in Islam!
Muslim: not really. Muslims care only about being able to practice Islam and Arabs don't hinder nonmuslims from practicing.
IslamHater: oh yes it IS a big problem!  They dictate dress code to all other Muslims.
Muslim: not really. African women dress like Muslim African women, Bosnian Muslims dress like Bosnian Muslims, Lebanese Muslim women dress like Lebanese women. Different head covering styles. Arabs dictate only how Arabs should dress.

Muslim: islam established voting rights for women 1400 yrs ago
IslamHater: no, it didn't. Prove it.
Muslim: sura Ash Shurra used plural language when it asked people to settle all matters requiring collective opinion by hearing people's choices. God was talking to both men and women. 
IslamHater: <silence>
IslamHater: <silence>
IslamHater: But look at how far behind Muslim countries lagged in granting women voting rights.
Muslim: Thats because after the Prophet died, the treatment and condition of women deteriorated and eventually went back to pre islamic times.
IslamHater: But that sura Muslima quoted doesn't prove Muslima voting rights! <note the subtle deflection>

Muslim: the sura Muslima quoted showed that Islam made women politically relevant
IslamHater:  No, it was an admission for membership into the Prophets tribe.
Muslim:  yes, and that an oath was administered for entry into his tribe makes her politically relevant because more oaths= more power
IslamHater:  okay, but then its at least discriminatory because the same oath was not administered to men. <note the deflection again>
Muslim: ummm, yes it was. A group of men took the oath in the treaty under the tree, to become members of his tribe and pledge allegiance to the Prophet.
IslamHater: <silence>

IslamHater: I am such a highly intelligent woman, so well educated about Islam that these Muslim women can't handle my exceptional intelligence.
Muslim: no, not really. You can't even understand a word of the actual Quran. So your hatred comes from not being able to decipher the Quranic text and thus your misunderstanding. Go talk to a scholar.
IslamHater: never! He'll try to convert me!!!! <frightened little girl voice>

And there you have it folks. These are not challenges. They are pitiful misunderstandings based on her google ability, TV shows about Indonesian children, radio shows airing uneducated listener comments who she likes to mock, and reliance on unreliable, literal English translations of the holy Quran.

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