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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here's the Bureau of Prisons study - 
Top sources of guns used by criminals:
Bought via underground market 43.2%
Bought/traded/borrowed/given to them by someone 25.3%
Other - brought by someone else, etc 17.4%
Legally purchased 10.1%
Stolen is all the way down at 6.4%.

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf

Things like universal mandatory background checks and ability to track movement of guns via persistent searchable database would take away a good 80% plus of the pathways for criminals to get guns.[/quote]

Track movement? Your “persistent searchable database” will lead from the crime-gun recovery to the original purchaser, and stop there with nothing in between. The authorities seem to have no trouble accomplishing that now.

Your thesis also ignores the smuggling solution. The same people who bring in tons of illicit narcotics will be more than happy to ship firearms.[/quote]

When coupled with mandatory universal background checks, when you then trace it, the last guy to show up in the records is the one who moved it into the criminal underground.  Couple it with a law that says you must report lost or stolen guns, and there's no out.  Might be able to get away with saying you lost guns or had them stolen ONCE but after that if you want to claim you lost guns or had them stolen AGAIN then AT BEST you are an irresponsible gun owner who shouldn't have had guns in the first place, and at worst you are an accessory to the crime for having supplied the gun to the criminals whether directly or indirectly.[/quote]

You left out the smuggling part. And the part where a person can be as responsible as a person can be but still have their property stolen. Police have guns stolen from them all the time.

Punish criminals not decent people. [/quote]

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