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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Carole's definition of ride or die seems to be, once I've aligned myself with you I will never ever call you on any of your atrocious behavior.

When she was buds with Bethenny, she didn't call her on anything when she really should have (the screaming at LuAnn business).  And now Dorinda.  You're really not going to tell Dorinda that she is a drunken, Joker-esque, hot mess?

That's not my definition of a good friend.  My definition of a good friend is someone who kindly points out to me when I'm going down the wrong path.
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Off-screen though. Not as a character on TV. That's what a real friend would do. [/quote]

I totally understand what you are saying, but it can't really work that way when the horrid behavior is on camera.  These women have chosen to put their lives out there.  We can all see when Bethenny screams like an unhinged lunatic or Dorinda blacks out and insults people.  There is no unseeing it.  And then the behavior is discussed because that's the format of the show.  Sure, do it in a kind and constructive way with your friend, but to sit there and deny it publicly is delusional.

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Yeah, this show/the format does not make for healthy relationships or friendships. But I do think a real friend's instinct is to talk about whatever the issue is off-camera. Is it not what they signed up for? Maybe. But you didn't see Bethenny going on about what was really happening with Dennis, did you? That wouldn't have been right. That's part of what a friend does. You are honest with your friend to their face and in private abut their most personal and painful issues, but you don't put their stuff out in front street for the looky-loos, unless or until they are also willing to share, not even if you're on a TV show that purports to be "reality." This show isn't really reality. There's no such thing as reality television (except maybe hidden camera shows). It's reality-ish. [/quote]

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