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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^ So, your measure of success of Muslim integration in the US is how many Muslims have been elected president or nominated as cabinet members -- even thought they are 1% of the population, whereas in France they are 10%? Ok, how many Latinos are considered serious candidates for presidential primaries in france, like they are in the US? None, right? Perhaps because Latinos comprise a small proportion of the French population? So I need to conclude that France I doing much worse integrating latinos?

How many Buddishts, for that matter?

The US is a federation of 50 states, like the EU is a union of 28.  How many heads of state -- governor--  are female in the US? Quite a few, proportionally more than in the EU.

And were people of North African heritage subject to slavery for hundreds of years and legal segregation until 50 years ago, like the AAs were?  If we take the 60s as the starting point of progress, as implied by your statement about Muslim presence in france, the US has done much more progress with AA issues -- although so much more remains to be done, obviously  -- compared to French progress with Muslim issues.  Remember, the terrorists were  French born citizens.

My original question stand: when do you think a person with a Muslim name will be elected president of France?

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I never said that, I was responding to a poster asking retorically when France would elect somebody with a Muslim sounding name as President.  the idea that Muslims would be welcome with open arms in the US in high public offices is silly.  Muslims are about 5% of the population in France (not 10%) most have come after the 60's and there have been several cabinet members in France in the past 10 years. zero in the United States.

as for the 28 states of Europe beign comparable with the 50 state, you really do not undertstand Europe at all.  do you really think that Angela Merkel has the same weight of the governor of Massachusetts, or of any other state? do you think the president of the EU commission has the same power as Obama?  in 1984 the US celebrated the first  female vice president candidate.  at the same time The UK had already had a female Prime Minister for five years.  [/quote]

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