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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ezra Klein just said in his latest podcast…

The worst thing Israeli advocates can do is tie anti-Zionism to anti-semitism because it will drive many to say “fine, I’m the latter then”

Ezra is Jewish and a Zionist himself [/quote]
I agree. I as a nonjew living amongst thousands of jews, am having a difficult time deciphering why the jews I personally know consider these terms synonymous. The definition of antisemitism is hatred of jews, but then I question that not all jews are Semitic so therefore not all anti Judaism is antisemitism with the latter being more damaging and racist. Antizionism means that you don’t believe jews should have a homeland, but again if a jew is an Ivanka Trump, I may not agree with zionism. [/quote]

I don’t agree that anti-Zionism must mean one doesn’t believe that Jews should have a homeland.

Can someone not be critical of Israel - perhaps even extremely critical - without wanting the nation state to disappear?

Why is the concept of “reform” as an alternative to “political dissolution” so difficult for some to consider?[/quote]
This seems to be very subjective, therefore how can antizionism equal antisemitism if the definition varies even amongst the OG Jews?[/quote]

Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism, the movement for the self-determination and statehood of the Jewish people in the Land of Israel. While it can encompass various viewpoints, it fundamentally denies the Jewish people's right to a Jewish state in that region. Anti-Zionism is distinct from criticism of specific policies of the Israeli government or critiques of the pre-state Zionist movement, as it attacks the legitimacy of Jewish statehood itself.
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this seems accurate. because if you support a 'one-state solution' with equal de facto and de jure rights for all (i.e. canada/usa) type system, that is considered 'anti-zionist' .

in short, does one believe that a jewish state has a right to exist and maintain itself as a jewish state.

If you are consistent that ethnostates should not exist...ie china should not be a state just for the 'han people' then you can be consistently anti-zionist without being anti-semetic. [/quote]

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