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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought this was an interesting viewpoint.

[twitter]https://x.com/damintoell/status/1809755719140319672[/twitter][/quote]

+1 Yes, I agree it's an interesting viewpoint. Probably considerable truth there.  [/quote]

-1 It's pretty hard to believe that conservatives have much of a clue about what the media outside of right wing media reports on, given how many things they consistently get wrong, for example the astoundingly large percentage that believe Trump won the election and that it was stolen from him, the large percentage that underestimate wealth inequality, the fact that only 62% of Republicans even believe in climate change, with only 34% believing that human activity has anything to do with it.  That ignores a ton of science.   That list of baffling conservative beliefs goes on and on and on and on.

I mean, if they look at non-conservative media sources at all, they must be immediately making an irrational choice that "the left lies, therefore I will believe the opposite?"[/quote]

PP here. I live in Georgia. The conservatives I know are college educated, not in denial about climate change, work hard, pay taxes, go to church/synagogue/mosque, and often are small business owners. They want tighter controls at our borders, a strong military, lowered inflation, better public education with a focus on academics and vocational training, and violent criminals and repeat criminals kept in prison (or hospitalized longterm for mental health issues). [/quote]

Not in Georgia but same. [/quote]

so what do you think of the bipartisan immigration bill reached by Dems and Gop that would have increased security at the border and was sank by Trump for the sole reason that he wants an open border to be able to have it an main issue to run on? as fpr academics in school, what do you think of the Republican governor imposing the bible as education tool in classes? we have a gigantic debt, how do you think we can have a strong military (which costs $$$) if Trump wants to cut more taxes? his proposals of tariffs, deportation of immigrants and tax cuts will raise inflation, not lower it. if he kicks out Powel and puts one of his lackeys who agrees to just print money, we are going the way of Argentina.

there is nothing wrong if what you describe, i want franjly the same things and I vote Dem. Trump talks a good talk (full of lies) but i dont see how people dont see the reality. an immigration bill that would have helped the border could have been in place now for two months and Trump sank it (if it was not good enough as I am sure people will say, it was still better than nothing and it still should have been passed and Trump could have improved it next year.) he sank it outright because he did not want an improved border situation, he wanted as much chaos at the border as possible to tun on it on the election (instead of abortion, his crazy economic policies, affinity for Russia and the fact that he is a felon and that two serious trials where he involved were slowed down enough to end up after the election, otherwise voters would have been exposed to those messes too) I mean, this is reality, i dont see how people cannot see it.  [/quote]

That's just it - they shrug off anything politically inconvenient to their bubble and pretend it's all "fake news" because conservative media has conditioned them to do this for the last 30 years.[/quote]

Sounds to me like we have two dysfunctional major political parties followed by larges masses of misled sheep that can't escape their bubbles long enough to see the truth for what it is.[/quote]

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