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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone have a read on Shiv's drinking during the episode? It felt emphasized in the scene with Matsson and also on the plane home when everyone was having champagne. Like they made a point of showing her taking drinks and tossing her head back. Curious if people thought was really drinking or making it look like she was, and if she was drinking, if that has any bearing on her feelings about her pregnancy. I'm not sure what to make of it.

I thought it was interesting in the scene with Matsson when offers her the cocaine and she acts interested but then the conversation shifts and she never has any. It made me think if she was just skillfully making it look like she was partaking in alcohol/drugs by holding alcohol, saying yes to things offered, even appearing to take sips of things, but actually managing to avoid it somehow. I think that would be pretty hard in that environment but Shiv was doing a good job generally of playing it cool when her brothers, Tom, and the grays were not doing such a good job. Maybe she's just better at this stuff because of the time she spent in politics and outside of Waystar. She's less of a bubble baby than most of them are.[/quote]

They made a big show of her not doing the cocaine. And we see her with a drink but there’s no evidence she has more than one per day. Early in my pregnancy I always had a glass of wine at family gatherings so my mom would leave me alone. [/quote]

The also show her throwing back the scotch or whiskey or whatever she is drinking with Matsson. It felt different in nature from she was sipping champagne on the plane.

I just feel like they wouldn't be zooming in on these things if it's not going to come up later. Presumable people are going to find out about the pregnancy at some point, and I'm worried that photos or anecdotes about her drinking (or even being in close proximity to or being alleged to have done cocaine) might get used to discredit her.

Worried her pregnancy is going to get used against her in a really sexist, devious, and grotesque way and that these moments might play into it. Would definitely not put it past Kendall and Roman to do that if they feel threatened by her at some point. Also wouldn't put it past Matsson. Any of these guys would jump at the chance to use her pregnancy or her perceive irresponsibility as a mom to gain the upper hand on her.[/quote]

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