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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are still hiding behind the fear of failure and exposure.[/quote]  
No they are not.  It's about recognizing that what the kids have done that prior season  - different size field, # of players and/or use of goalies - differs from what is offered at the tournament so it would put the kids in a bad situation.

[quote=Anonymous]1. Being selected as an "All Star" serves as a sense of pride for a player in a activity level where everyone really does get a participation trophy. And I am for rewarding players with an acknowledgement that they have played well and worked hard. Perhaps these are kids and parents who never felt their kid good enough for travel.[/quote]

I have no idea how VYS or Arlington or other clubs do their internal tournaments, but they could certainly set it up in a way that recognizes certain players as All-Stars.  Playing in the Herndon tournament and being designated an All-Star are not the same thing.

[quote=Anonymous]2. Travel teams get crushed in tournaments all the time and they keep going back.[/quote]

And how does that help the players?  How does that justify the cost?  If the kids are being recognized by the club and have the opportunity to play some more games against  teams that will likely be better matched (since they're put together by a club that knows all of the players involved), isn't that a better overall experience for everyone?  And so what that they've played against some of those players before, as they'll also be playing against some players from their own team in a competitive match, and bragging rights are pretty strong motivation to play hard.

[quote=Anonymous]3. You really have no idea how the kids will fair. You are simply afraid of the worst possible outcome. I have had a child play in that tournament and the games are competitive, meaning they are pretty balanced. [/quote]  Nor do you have any idea how the kids will fare.  Just because one time your kid's team had balanced games, you think every game will be?  And what about the numerous explanations given about how VYS is not doing birth year so their rec soccer teams are set up differently from the other teams in the tourney.  You keep ignoring the circumstances at play here.

[quote=Anonymous]4. I've got news for you, VYS as a travel program is not lights out amazing and yet you still have teams, and kids still play in leagues and go to tournaments. Some teams are good and some are bad and yet losing is always a possibility and yet they play. Why should rec be any different? You are simply denying an opportunity for club pride and that is sad. [/quote]
VYS kids are given that opportunity at the older age groups when the tourney set-up matches up with what they're during in house league.  From what's been said on here, the younger age groups are being given other opportunities.  Do you really believe it's critical for U8 and U9 rec players to play in an All-Star tournament in order to create "an opportunity for club pride," whatever that means.  And the fact that VYS' travel teams are not good, with the exception or 1 or 2 teams at the most, is not relevant to this discussion because, to repeat what has been said ad nauseam but which you refuse to acknowledge, there is no disconnect between what the VYS travel teams are doing and what the other travel teams in those tournaments are doing - they are playing to the same USSF standards/rules, whereas the VYS house teams are not.[/quote]

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4. I've got news for you, VYS as a travel program is not lights out amazing and yet you still have teams, and kids still play in leagues and go to tournaments. Some teams are good and some are bad and yet losing is always a possibility and yet they play. Why should rec be any different? You are simply denying an opportunity for club pride and that is sad.

VYS kids are given that opportunity at the older age groups when the tourney set-up matches up with what they're during in house league. From what's been said on here, the younger age groups are being given other opportunities. Do you really believe it's critical for U8 and U9 rec players to play in an All-Star tournament in order to create "an opportunity for club pride," whatever that means. And the fact that VYS' travel teams are not good, with the exception or 1 or 2 teams at the most, is not relevant to this discussion because, to repeat what has been said ad nauseam but which you refuse to acknowledge, there is no disconnect between what the VYS travel teams are doing and what the other travel teams in those tournaments are doing - they are playing to the same USSF standards/rules, whereas the VYS house teams are not.[/quote]

Umm, I meant that "club pride" is the reason for [b]NOT[/b] participating in the tournament. That your reasons posted are just excuses for the club to [b]save face[/b].

Certainly nobody cares who wins a rec tournament and wouldn't bring any more pride to the club. It is simply a different competitive environment for the kids to play in. VYS seems to weigh the results of it far more than is necessary.

So no, kids don't have to play in it. It isn't necessary for their development, it is only an opportunity for some kids to have fun. But better to worry about field dimensions and goalie I suppose.

To participate or not participate does not in and of itself make a club look stupid, but the reasons stated here certainly do. [/quote]

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