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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sometimes I think pay to play and ECNL has turned parents minds into mush.

Go all in on development and players will stop with the stupid age based competition levels.

Players that do not work out will get vetted sooner and their parents won't need to waste thousands on a dream that will never happen. On the other side of the coin top talent won't need to pay to be developed which will encourage high level play.[/quote]

Who pays for the development if not the parents?[/quote]

Professional teams. That's how it works internationally. In the US, the MLS academies a very generous for scholarships for players they think have a chance to either make the senior team or be sold. [/quote]
Professional teams in the US don’t make enough money to do that. Not even close. Would need NFL type money[/quote]

There he is Soccernomics Dad is back![/quote]
The irony is that multiple NWSL clubs are pushing for Acadamies. Berman even said that they are in an interview earlier this year. You know the same NWSL clubs that don't make "NFL" money.

I think soccernomics guy is a club owner thats high on the sweet sweet pay to play $$$. They've forgotten why people play sports and why spectators watch sports. For him it's all about creating some kind of barrier to higher level play that anyone can get past as long as they pay him.

If NWSL implements acadamies with an associated league (like MLS Next) it will take a lot $$$ out of the pay to play pot of gold. [/quote]

To discount the economics of the situation is naive. [/quote]

MLS makes it work. You can be pay to play for most of the kids and free or even offering compensation for the couple who actually matter [/quote]

MLS makes it work because they have the money to make it work. They built the league slowly and expanded deliberately over 20+ years.

And simply put, women’s sports will just never make as much or eclipse men’s sports. [/quote]
Haha you dont know what youre talking about.

MLS implemented a homegrown rule in 2008.

In 2008 there were 14 MLS Clubs

Currently NWSL has 14 Clubs

Sure seems like the economics of when MLS enabled Academies is exactly where NWSL is right now.[/quote]

Exactly what part of it will happen but it will take a decade don't you understand? Exactly what part of women's sports simply do not match men's sports in revenue don't you understand?

What part of when US Soccer created and included MLS with the development of the DA leaving the girls' and women's game out in the cold don't you understand? ECNL exists solely as a reaction to US Soccer ignoring the girls game.

It has taken MLS over a decade to get where it currently is now. How can you just not understand that these things take time?

Not a single person here is arguing against NWSL or arguing for pay to play. We are all just telling you to pump your breaks on anything imminent.

There hasn't even been anything close to formal announcement and you have an entire academy structure and national youth league based on it all plotted out in your mind like it will happen this fall.

The fact that you discount the economics of the process as if they are of no concern shows how ignorant you truly are. [/quote]
Did I touch a nerve there big fella?

A little too close to your cash cow (girls pay to play)

How things will map out when NWSL implements Acadamies is very important to players and parents.

As of right now it looks like NWSL will create something like MLS Next. This will be implemented through US Soccer (just like MLS Next was after DA) and it also means that "NWSL Next" will be done through GA because US Soccer recently made GA a full platform member.

Financially NWSL in 2024 is where MLS was in 2008 when MLS implemented a homegrown rule which allowed clubs to implement true Acadamies.[/quote]

Who likes pay to play? I don't like pay to play.

IS it really your expectation that NWSL will have an academy/league system set up by 2025? [/quote]
My only expectation is to expose how bad the youth age bound pay to play is for player development.

It's frustrating when I see all the new ECNL parents talking about wins and why XYZ club is "better" than ABC club and the reasons cited have nothing to do with actual player development.

Youth pay to play soccer is all about recruiting the biggest early developers to play on an age bound team. Skill isn't required if you're just more aggressive on defense and able to boot the ball up.

Players could be so much better but Ameicans don't know that pay to play isn't the best way to train talent.[/quote]

I don't disagree with this sentiment, but the realities of incumbent systems and economics are still at play.

You're also waaaay off base by believing people are against pro academies. You're posts all come off as a crazed zealot vs a rational fan of the game who wants to see our national game improve.  [/quote]
Thank you for your assessment.

I think you come across as a cheapskate.[/quote]

How can I spend other people's money? I don't own a NWSL club who's salaries are so low many players need to live in people's basements? Don't call me the cheapskate.[/quote]
Funny, the guy that's a massive cheapskate doesn't want to be called out as a cheapskate.[/quote]

Haven’t you also accused me of loving expensive pay to play ECNL?

Your arguments and insults make little sense and are contradictory.

“Women’s soccer is booming!!” Yet “women’s college soccer is doomed”

I don’t care how NWSL spends their money I’m just saying that it ain’t gonna be on a fully funded academy system any time soon. [/quote]

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