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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Coming in late: death certificate says “homocide”, wth is the debate about???[/quote]

Homicide, as they said earlier in the trial, isn't a legal designation or something that results in an automatic conviction. There are only a few options; "natural", "suicide", "homicide", "other" (am I missing one?). So the ME said homicide, but the defense is arguing that that's a medical opinion.[/quote]

Homicide from a medical viewpoint doesn't imply intent or malice.  [/quote]

I thought the defense attorney did a great job explaining that and with his closing argument.  I was a full guilty and now I could not convict.  I am concentrating on the entire incident, not just the 9 minutes.[/quote]

Same.  His earnestness is a plus.  [/quote]

Agreed. Can be more effective than a polished performance[/quote]

Same. I am an attorney and was very much in the guilty camp for at least the second and third offenses (I was always doubtful on the top charge).  After hearing the defense’s closing arguments, i could not convict on any of the charges. I am flabbergasted at my change in view.   [/quote]

I am as well.  I was a total guilty until today.  I took out the emotion and studied the video from the officer’s camera, and didn’t just focus on the 9 minutes.  It was eye opening, and I would not convict.  I predict a hung jury and no retrial.[/quote]

Totally disagree. There was no reason to keep Floyd in that position for nearly 10 minutes. None. And [b]no matter what else was going on in Floyd’s body[/b], his position and Chauvin’s knee killed him. Guilty.[/quote]

But those factors may have been the reason the position and knee killed him, so they're relevant, and Chauvin wouldn't have known about those predisposing conditions that made Floyd vulnerable.  [b]The defense was convincing that those predisposing factors bring doubt to Chauvin being the sole cause[/b].

The behavioral standards for restraint need to change.  It's known that some people die when restrained, especially if on drugs.  How is this type of restraint allowed when someone is handcuffed?  What BLM should be pressing for is very specific revision of policing protocols.  [/quote]

As the jury should be aware, legally the question is NOT whether Chauvin was the "sole cause" of Floyd's death, but rather whether his actions were a "substantial causal factor."  Someone else already pointed out that the necessary intent also isn't what a lot of you seem to think. Guess we all have to sit back and hope that the jury paid attention to what the judge told them the law is (rather than how the defense tried to obfuscate it).[/quote]

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