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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really don't want to derail the thread, but...it is so weird to me when people like PP are condescending about other people not believing in God. I arrived at my agnosticism after deep, prolonged examination and reflection, in addition to a thorough knowledge of the history of not just Christianity, but the other major religions as well. To have someone glibly pronounce that I am not "self-examined" and that if I were, the sole conclusion from that would be belief in a Christian God...it is just astounding.

PP, your unwavering belief that God exists does not make it so. Your belief that all people ultimately will choose religion, and Christianity in particular, if "self-examined" is so unbelievably naive and half-baked that I cannot possibly regard you as a rational, intelligent person. [/quote]

+1000

I find it so offensive when Christians say that those of us who don't believe simply aren't trying hard enough. I tried. So hard. For so many years. I'm a former evangelical; I even attended a fundy college (think Liberty University). I'm very well educated in Christian theology and I practiced my faith diligently, even as I battled doubts. But through a long process of education (mainly secular critique of the Bible) and reflection on the upsetting concept of an all knowing, loving, and powerful God who so rarely exerts that power, I became agnostic. And I've never been happier or more at peace.

I think it's great that so many people derive comfort from religion. I derive comfort from NOT being religious. Don't tell me that my personal experience is wrong and that I actually long for God, because I don't. I didn't find peace until I finally accepted that the Christian God does not exist. [/quote]

I tried for a very long time to be religious and/or spiritual.  I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools. As a teen-ager and young adult, I went searching for faith in God.  I studied and read and prayed. I attended different churches. I took classes. I read books.  I prayed some more.  I don't have a God shaped hole that needs to be filled with faith.  It's not there. It doesn't matter how much I looked, I couldn't find faith and couldn't find a need for faith in my life. [/quote]

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