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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So...whenever religious people talk amongst ourselves about stuff like this, I have literally never heard anyone put down atheists or even reference atheists at all.. Not even, "at least I'll feel smug that I wasn't an atheist!" No religious person talks like that, unless they are a cartoon on TV or an actual fanatic. Most people who are believers (and also not fanatic Christian evangelists, which most of us aren't) are happy to just let atheists do their thing and never bring it up.

So when atheists are doing the offhand-condescension move, like, "well I wish I could be dumb enough to believe in god, what a pity I'm not dumb," with the obvious implication that anyone who differs in opinion is dumb, I [i]kinda[/i] lose respect for you guys. And I don't see a big difference between you and the evangelists. Just saying.[/quote]

+1000

I also note the almost militant, detached tone that agnostics here and in other posts take, a deliberate separation from themselves and God, as though they have to really work to keep Him out of their lives. What they don't (yet) understand is the way that God comes to us, lives in us and changes us, through the Holy Spirit. It's not something you constantly have to work at or try to believe, which is what they imply here[/quote]

To the previous PP, Here's your condescending evidence from the evangelists.

To the pp, you are confused, god doesn't exist, we don't have to keep something out if it doesn't exist in the first place.[b] There is literally no work involved to not believe in god because we are all born not believing in god - it's the default position[/b]. [/quote]

That is not true at all -- in fact, the opposite. [b]We are all born with a "God-shaped" void[/b]. We spend our lives trying to fill it; tragically for many, in the wrong way.[/quote]

Where did you learn that, in Sunday school?  Certainly not in science class.[/quote]

Now I am curious what a god-shaped cookie cutter would look like.[/quote]

[img]https://img1.etsystatic.com/062/0/11230340/il_570xN.793931571_fh9o.jpg[/img][/quote]

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