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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Re asking saints to intercede - Why not just go right to the top?[/quote] Why do you ask people to pray for you? Why not just do it all yourself?[/quote] When someone offers to pray for me, I say "Don't you dare! Keep your silly prayers to yourself! I only deal with God and don't want to be bothered by the likes of you!"[/quote] Wow, you must have lots of friends.[/quote] I think pp was kidding. People who value prayer usually welcome all the prayers they can get. In the case of Catholics, they can pay to have whole groups of monks pray for them or can buy indulgences to shorten a loved one's time in Purgatory.[/quote] The last sentence here is not true at all and sounds like it came straight out of anti-Catholic materials. [/quote] Indulgences have not been outright "bought" since the 1500's. These days people make charitable contributions, for instance to monasteries or convents, so the brothers or sisters will pray for your loved one and then use the money given for upkeep or some other worthy cause. Many Catholics still use the terminology "buying" indulgences, because there is a monetary cost involved and you do get something back for your contribution. The monks and nuns promise to pray based on a "suggested contribution." http://www.stjudemonastery.org/enrollments/[/quote] I have been in Protestant churches where the minister includes those who have donated to a particular charity in the prayers the congregation says. It is common in most Christian churches to pray for others. [/quote] What is described above is a little different fom an indulgence, which is specifically for giving dead loved ones an added boost to shorten their stay in purgatory and get into heaven. Catholics believe in purgatory, but other Christians don't. Family members can pray on their own, without making a monetary contribution, but the indulgence system means that others, who have a spcial relationship with god, are praying too.[/quote]
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