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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here. I'm not a pearl clutcher, but even if I was -- WHO CARES. The point is, will transgenders ask for urinals one day in womens bathrooms? To the ridiculous person who assumed I thought all men use urinals only, stop assuming. I am asking if it is a possibility in the future. Why couldn't it be? How many of you who are fine with transgenders using womens bathrooms will also be fine with biological men using urinals in front of you or your children? Transgender folks - I am truly sorry for the hardship you endure, but your right to pee, possibly even at a urinal, in front of my toddler does not trump my right to protect my daughter from seeing this. If you want to be bold enough to don a skirt and high heels and a red wig, then you should know people will stare or laugh. It's unusual to see a 6' man dressed like this. Learn to ignore. If you are at risk of being raped in the mens bathroom, then the mens bathroom needs a full time attendant; it shouldn't be the women's problem to accommodate you in their bathroom. You are biologically male and the mens bathroom is for people who are biologically male, regardless of how they like to dress. [/quote] I find it a bit astounding that trans people are literally being attacked and killed in public places in this country while bystanders watch and...you think that trans women are going to lead a successful campaign for urinals in the nation's restrooms? I really mean this in the least sarcastic way possible. I can't tell whether you're serious or this is a parody. If you really live in DC and go out in public frequently, I'd wager money that you've shared a bathroom with someone who was assigned male at birth and still has a penis. I'm really not sure where this fantasy about urinals came from, I'm not really tracking your train of thought there. Your daughter is going to be a lot older than a toddler if this dream ever comes to fruition, because trans people are still being attacked and killed in front of bystanders in public...we're a little ways off from achieving the urinal dream. So I guess it'll be someone else's (improbable) problem, if that makes you feel better. I find it interesting you are only concerned with people who are "biologically male." How do you feel about men with facial hair in the women's restroom? I dunno, I'm just confused because someone commented to me this weekend that "the bathroom thing" at schools was enough to make any reasonable person start homeschooling. If you're transphobic, that's...not cool or understandable to me, but it's a thing that I can understand. What I don't get is the context in which some of these comments are made, like do you not realize this is already happening and you can't tell? You seem to think that a trans person will be easily identifiable to you but I think you might be surprised. The only thing that's being debated is whether to codify the rights and protections of trans people. It really has nothing to do with the general usage of the bathroom because this is already happening and will continue to happen unless you plan to stand at door asking people to pull down their pants for an inspection when they walk in the door. go ahead and make it illegal and the man with facial hair still isn't going to use the women's bathroom (although he should just to prove a point, maybe it would blow some minds). I guess it's a little more of a gray area with schools but it's still already happening. [/quote]
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