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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]re: Penn State

It's a perfectly fine school. I'm sure if you tried hard enough you could find your niche at PSU and have an amazing intellectually stimulating experience there and perhaps even dabble in cutting-edge research, but you would be more of an exception than the rule. No specific data to back that claim up, just basing that on my own experience growing up in PA and knowing many, many PSU grads. And even considering it for myself at one point.

You don't think there would be any meaningful differences between the experience at a top 10-15 school on your list vs. 75-100?  Better research options? Better funding/corporate support? And I'm sorry to say that the "prestige" does help with all of those things. Attracting innovators, investors, etc.

Sorry, I just don't see it as being comparable. [/quote]

See the statistics in the Times World Ranking of Universities - it seems a lot of research is going on at PSU and Pitt, my alma mater (Incidentally, Pitt along with Army and Navy were considered for membership in the Ivy League at its founding). The Ivy League like the SEC, Big East or PAC-10 is a sports league, nothing else.[/quote]

I did look at your list and I was asking about the top 10-15 vs. 75-100.  You don't think there are discernible differences in the research environments?

Agree that Ivy League is just a sports league.  However, many people do have hangups (good and bad) about it. 
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