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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, but if you are STEM major, you can get by with poorer grades in gen ed requirements and get a job based on your STEM skills. I work with plenty of people who are very good on the quantitative side but struggle to put together a one page memo--we let them do what they are good at and limit the extent to which they are expected to write. They are valuable members of the team. I am sure we have many smart and productive scientists like this. It would have been a shame if they got the message they were poor at math because they could not orally explain their answers with their fellow second graders. It is very hard to make it through school receiving daily messages that there is nothing, really, that you are good at. Had we had this system in the past, we would no doubt have been deprived of many of the brilliant research scientists and engineers we have today.[/quote] Exactly this. Many smart people will have their lives ruined by Common Core. We will waste some of the best minds of this generation.[/quote] I agree, and I'm a liberal. I think Common Core, at least the way it's been implemented, really hurts introverts. Not with any learning issues, just introverts. Yes, my child *can* make conversation and talk with her peers about every darned thing they do in class, but it takes a lot out of her and makes her hate school. She never gets any time to just do her own work and think. If you're an introvert, you need that to be happy. I think back to my education, and I was a shy introvert as well, and I at least had my own little universe at my desk where I could have some space for myself. I learned socialization (and you wouldn't even think i'm an introvert today), but at recess and lunch and some other sporadic group projects. But in elementary school it's just about who's the biggest alpha social butterfly. Totally sucks, and not representative of the real world. I'm a successful professional, and I spend 3/4 of my day basically alone. I'm certainly not forced to chitchat all day long.[/quote] Your child can do her own thing at home. The point of school is guided learning. It isn't about socializing and play. If she needs that, she needs to go back to preschool. And, the point of this thread was about SN. And introvert is not a SN. It is a personality type. Be lucky you are just struggling with a child as an introvert. Many of us would wish to have your problems.[/quote] You couldn't have missed the point more if you were trying. Goodness. I was saying it's bad in this way for NT introverts as well. And to the point that NT introverts are being diagnosed with anxiety and depression because they're being forced to be extroverts all day. And I did not say anything about the child wanting to play more or "do her own thing". She wants to do her work, just without also carrying on two conversations at the same time. That's helpful for some learners, but not all. [/quote] Your point is about you and your need vs the topic at hand. Comparing a introvert at risk for anxiety and depression is not comparable to a language child. Have you even thought about what you are saying. Ok, so you labeled your kid as an introvert. Not all introverts have mental health issues. Do you even get the real concern? What challenges our children face? How much we spend on therapies, cannot work as we are running every day to appointments, etc. we are not talking about a quiet child who prefers some down or alone time. Do you get many of our kids do not start talking till 4-5 and if they catch up, it takes years and many still always struggle. Ever worry if your child will talk? Ever worry about sending your five year old to school who cannot tell you anything thing about their day as they cannot answer basic questions. [/quote]
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