Anonymous
12/02/2015 00:11
Subject: Re:Common Core sets up children with language disorders for constant failure: article
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your point is about you and your need vs the topic at hand. Comparing a introvert at risk for anxiety and depression is not comparable to a language child. Have you even thought about what you are saying. Ok, so you labeled your kid as an introvert. Not all introverts have mental health issues. Do you even get the real concern? What challenges our children face? How much we spend on therapies, cannot work as we are running every day to appointments, etc. we are not talking about a quiet child who prefers some down or alone time. Do you get many of our kids do not start talking till 4-5 and if they catch up, it takes years and many still always struggle. Ever worry if your child will talk? Ever worry about sending your five year old to school who cannot tell you anything thing about their day as they cannot answer basic questions.
Whoa! That chip on your shoulder is getting ever larger. I have an SN child who has gone through seven years of therapy (language plus other problems_. My NT child has medical problems and has been hospitalized three times for life threatening illnesses (think well over 25 percent fatality rates). Also two suicide attempts and two other psych admissions. I guess I could say be thankful that your child's worst problem is that he doesn't talk much.
None of this would cause me to minimize the special problems PP has with an introverted NT child. Just because the child is NT does not mean the child is free of difficult to manage problems. PP is right to be concerned about the possibility of possible mental health problems; they are nightmare to deal with. it's not a picnic to be an introvert in a society that values extroverts and thinks introverts are less than.
This is not contest--my child is worse off than yours so shut up already. If anything, having problems with your child should help make one more empathetic, not less, towards others' problems even if by some objective measure they are not of the same order of magnitude of what your child has.
Have you considered therapy?
Seriously, that is your answer. And, you are showing empathy. The topic is common core and language disorders. It is not about a personality type. Clearly your child didn't have the language issues if you are not getting the concerns many parents face with language kids. Our kids cannot answer basic questions, therefore will fail because they do not have the verbal skills - receptive or expressive to be able to speak. No one is minimizing other issues, but the topic is about language disorders. Why is there a need to dismiss kids and/or the need to lump them in with other diagnosis not fitting for them. If you want to complain about CC and your kids who are not language delayed, start a new topic.
You must be new to DCUM if you believe going off on tangents should kick a poster off a thread. And a tangent that says the way CC is implemented in many places isn't just detrimental to language impaired kids but also to many others is, by DCUM standards, not much of a tangent. Take a look at the gn at Wilson thread that has turned into a pun fest.
I am now thinking you are the the OP and not one of the PPs who said stop blaming CC--the school needs to get more language resources for the language impaired or some similar when pigs fly statement. But I wonder if singling out language impaired children only as victims of certain CC implementations actually weakens the case for change. Wouldn't showing these implementations are detrimental to many types of kids actually help get changes through to make implementation of CC successful for as many kids as possible? Just having a hard time understanding why you are so peeved at others noting problems other types of kids are having with CC as it is often implemented.
(Know saying implement so many times is redundant, but there is another PP who jumps down everyone's throat if they shortcut and just say CC because, people, they are standards, yes, standards and you cannot criticize them, deftly sidestepping the many, many posts that have focused on their implementation and not the standards themselves.)
Anonymous
12/01/2015 23:47
Subject: Re:Common Core sets up children with language disorders for constant failure: article
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your point is about you and your need vs the topic at hand. Comparing a introvert at risk for anxiety and depression is not comparable to a language child. Have you even thought about what you are saying. Ok, so you labeled your kid as an introvert. Not all introverts have mental health issues. Do you even get the real concern? What challenges our children face? How much we spend on therapies, cannot work as we are running every day to appointments, etc. we are not talking about a quiet child who prefers some down or alone time. Do you get many of our kids do not start talking till 4-5 and if they catch up, it takes years and many still always struggle. Ever worry if your child will talk? Ever worry about sending your five year old to school who cannot tell you anything thing about their day as they cannot answer basic questions.
Whoa! That chip on your shoulder is getting ever larger. I have an SN child who has gone through seven years of therapy (language plus other problems_. My NT child has medical problems and has been hospitalized three times for life threatening illnesses (think well over 25 percent fatality rates). Also two suicide attempts and two other psych admissions. I guess I could say be thankful that your child's worst problem is that he doesn't talk much.
None of this would cause me to minimize the special problems PP has with an introverted NT child. Just because the child is NT does not mean the child is free of difficult to manage problems. PP is right to be concerned about the possibility of possible mental health problems; they are nightmare to deal with. it's not a picnic to be an introvert in a society that values extroverts and thinks introverts are less than.
This is not contest--my child is worse off than yours so shut up already. If anything, having problems with your child should help make one more empathetic, not less, towards others' problems even if by some objective measure they are not of the same order of magnitude of what your child has.
Have you considered therapy?
Seriously, that is your answer. And, you are showing empathy. The topic is common core and language disorders. It is not about a personality type. Clearly your child didn't have the language issues if you are not getting the concerns many parents face with language kids. Our kids cannot answer basic questions, therefore will fail because they do not have the verbal skills - receptive or expressive to be able to speak. No one is minimizing other issues, but the topic is about language disorders. Why is there a need to dismiss kids and/or the need to lump them in with other diagnosis not fitting for them. If you want to complain about CC and your kids who are not language delayed, start a new topic.
Anonymous
12/01/2015 21:36
Subject: Re:Common Core sets up children with language disorders for constant failure: article
Anonymous wrote:
Your point is about you and your need vs the topic at hand. Comparing a introvert at risk for anxiety and depression is not comparable to a language child. Have you even thought about what you are saying. Ok, so you labeled your kid as an introvert. Not all introverts have mental health issues. Do you even get the real concern? What challenges our children face? How much we spend on therapies, cannot work as we are running every day to appointments, etc. we are not talking about a quiet child who prefers some down or alone time. Do you get many of our kids do not start talking till 4-5 and if they catch up, it takes years and many still always struggle. Ever worry if your child will talk? Ever worry about sending your five year old to school who cannot tell you anything thing about their day as they cannot answer basic questions.
Whoa! That chip on your shoulder is getting ever larger. I have an SN child who has gone through seven years of therapy (language plus other problems_. My NT child has medical problems and has been hospitalized three times for life threatening illnesses (think well over 25 percent fatality rates). Also two suicide attempts and two other psych admissions. I guess I could say be thankful that your child's worst problem is that he doesn't talk much.
None of this would cause me to minimize the special problems PP has with an introverted NT child. Just because the child is NT does not mean the child is free of difficult to manage problems. PP is right to be concerned about the possibility of possible mental health problems; they are nightmare to deal with. it's not a picnic to be an introvert in a society that values extroverts and thinks introverts are less than.
This is not contest--my child is worse off than yours so shut up already. If anything, having problems with your child should help make one more empathetic, not less, towards others' problems even if by some objective measure they are not of the same order of magnitude of what your child has.
Have you considered therapy?