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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have an acquaintance who did Something very similar to get into a top undergrad program (pre med).  She is american born to Pakistani parents (both mom and dad).  However, her father, although 100% pakistani ethnicity and citizenship (before becoming american)was born in egypt.  She claimed African on her applications.  She ended up excelling and entering a well regarded although not top 10 medical school.[/quote]

The point is she did well in med school.  Your scores mostly depend on your socioeconomic background.  They have nothing to do with how smart you are.  I am sure that I got into law school because of AA.  My scores were not as high.  However, I kicked ass in law school and on the bar.  Does that mean that I didn't deserve to be a lawyer even though my dad only had a 6th grade education and didn't know (and couldn't afford) that you are supposed to get private tutoring for your entrance exams?  SAT prep was a mystery to me in high school.  I didn' t know that people did that.  Was I as smart as my white counterparts?  Hell yes.  Did I have the same advantages?  Hell no.  Not just money, but also exposure.[/quote]

[b]So you're saying that whites should be denied entry with your scores despite the fact they will do just as well.[/b][/quote]

That's how I read that post also.  Sure, whites and Asians might do just as well as her, but she deserves the spot simply because she grew up with a dad who had a 6th grade education and was 'underprivileged'.  [/quote]

TBH, I think some of you all read her PP with a slant.  I did not read the way you did at all!  Read what she said in her second sentence.  You guys focused on race and she said SES was the primary factor.  And you are naive to think that a low SES raised person (who happens to be AA) has the same advantages as a higher SES person.

No offfense but if a higher SES White student had her scores (with all of the inherent advantages of being higher SES), I would venture to say that PP is more deserving.

If I were putting together an admissions class at my own fantasyland college, I would compare each race and SES against others in that race and SES.  I would choose the best within a race and a SES group to fill out my class.   Truth be told, high achievers in any race will do well - SES not so much.  Mid and high SES White folks hate Affirm Action the most because it is the "average" or mediocre students compared to other like White students who are being squeezed.  Mid and High SES Whites no longer get the benefit of being mediocre. [/quote]

Ummm why? Blind admissions based on GPA, SATs, extracurricular actives and accomplishments. SES and Race shouldn't be used for anything.[/quote]

That is where we disagree. SES absolutely should be a factor.  If a poor kid cannot rack up EC's because they have to work to help support the family, that should count FOR A LOT.  Blind admission is unrealistic and is not used for any other notion.  You apply for a job, they interview you.  They look at your resume (your background).  Why shouldn't college admission be the same way?[/quote]

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