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Where is post 00:06 in this thread?????? Did you mean 00:16???

Look at what I was accused of in 11:45 first. I was first accused of proselytizing. Then another poster accused muslims of lying. I didn't just start posting about voting rights out of the blue. It was preceded with unfair accusations. Naturally Im going to defend Islam.

Yes, post 00:16 on page three of this thread. Nobody accused Muslims in general of lying. It was suggested, however, that you yourself have a very selective memory.

And yes, on this thread, you did start posting about voting rights "out of the blue." Nobody mentioned it here until you brought it up. Unless you can explain how the accusations about proselytizing necessitated a response that involved voting rights.

- I posted that Muslims don't believe in the divinity of Jesus and so my faith in Islam is affirmed by the archeological finding of Thomas.
- Suddenly I was accused of proselytizing.
- I asked why I am not permitted to speak without being assigned sinister motives.
- Then another poster said we muslims did not acknowledge the islamophobe's superior knowledge and if we had done that, all would have been well.
- I replied and said she had some knowledge but huge holes in her understanding the way a self taught westerner might have. The confusion about voting rights was cited by me as an example.

Muslims must be able to post favorable comments about their religion the way Christians post favorably about their religion, without accusations of proselytizing.

Muslims must be permitted to compare and contrast religions without accusations of proselytizing.

If you don't permit Muslims to do what Christians do here on DCUM every day, it is islamophobic behavior.

- People are accusing [i]you[/i] of these things. They aren't accusing Muslims in general.

- Nobody ever told you to acknowledge the superior knowledge of the person you're calling an islamophobe. That wasn't my post. But that poster said that you greatly underestimated your audience's knowledge. Period. Here's her post from 10/24/2014 17:22 , in full:

[quote=Anonymous]I am okay with Muslim PP mentioning that Islam shows reverence for Jesus. I would say this is probably not known by 98% of the US population, and that in these days of ISIS, it is positive for all to find points of commonality that can foster better dialogue. I think it is fine to make this point several times as different posters read different threads.

I have noticed, however, on other Muslim threads--have no idea of Muslim PP on this thread is one of them or not--that a couple of Muslim posters write things that treat other (nonMuslim) DCUM posters as though they are as ignorant of Islam as this 98% even when their posts show a [b]high level of familiarity with, and even expertise in, Islam. [/b]Once this knowledge becomes apparent through the posts, these Muslim posters would be well advised to respond in a manner that acknowledges this to avoid getting trapped in unproductive arguments that arise owing to [b]their underestimation of the audience. [/b]

- There was no need for you to bring up women's equality or women's voting rights.

But think about this. If only two practicing Muslim women write on the subject of Islam and you accuse both of proselytizing and lying and/or misleading, what motivation does that provide for other silent DCUM muslim readers to speak up? To them it looks like any Muslim who defends their faith here will be bashed. If anything, they will avoid expressing their views.

Again, that wasn't what was being said. Nobody can possibly complain if somebody talks about their faith honestly and with full disclosure. On the other hand, if you talk about your faith using code words like "equality" that seem designed to mislead people, and endless recaps that don't quite follow what happened, then people will complain. [/quote]

Yikes. Reposting so it's legible.

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