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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The mindset of the lower middle class and working class are pretty similar. It is a very different mindset from those in the upper middle class.

-UMC grow up expecting to be college educated. It's not some distant dream and they don't need to be pushed to do it. It's a basic expectation.

-UMC choose where to buy a house based on real estate values, school districts, safety, etc. whereas LMC tend to want to stay close to their family even if it means sacrificing school district or safety.

-UMC places value on traveling, both domestic and international. Road trips are commonplace when the children are young (when feasible) to allow the kids to see more things. An ideal vacation for a LMC family is to take the kids to Disney (via plane) or to vacation in Vegas.

-LMC take pride in brand names and logos. UMC have understated, elegant things that may be designer or name brand, but you wouldn't know it because their things don't have logos plastered all over them (I'm talking to you women who carry Coach purses with the infamous "C" logo all over the bag... You shop at TJ Maxx, we get it)[/quote]

Oh, please.  Stop with the Bashing of the Working Class.  Here are my observations:

1) LMC places more emphasis on family relations.  Frequent get-togethers with family and extended family over the holidays.  Family will rally around you when you are in trouble, no questions asked, in sickness and in health.  It's just done that way.  UMC, OTOH, tend to be more dysfunctional in familial ties, and it is not uncommon that money is more valued that family relations.  As a matter of fact, money is often times the [b]basis [/b]for cut ties.  The richer you are, the more dysfunction, rising to filing lawsuits against your parents, etc.

2) LMC college graduates, on average, are smarter and more talented than the typical UMC college graduate.  As a hiring matter, coming from the same alma mater, it is better to hire the LMC graduate.  You can bet they are just more qualified, since it took more to get to the same place.

3) Both groups have members that like road trips, Disney, and gambling, so I disagree with you here.

4) UMC' logos are invitations to the right parties, whether your help is live-in, and how many, how many vacation homes you have, etc.  LMC' logos is a goddamn purse with a bunch of C's on it.  Which one is the the more foolhardy?  Hard to say.  Everyone is susceptible to logos, PP.  Have you ever sat in on a bunch of UMC's chatting over coffee?  If they're not bitching about some women, they are bragging about their stupid European vacations.  Intolerable.  I'm sure you have your "logos" as well.

5) But the bottom line:  LMC's wedding receptions are JUST MORE FUN.  I have never been to a LMC's wedding where they did not have an open bar, and a generous top shelf.  Good music.  Some uncle or barely legal niece making a drunken fool of themselves and having a ball.  I have been to some UMC's weddings where I saw they chintzed out on details for the guests.  Cheap asses.  'Course, the best are the private parties of the very rich, but then, that's not what we're talking about here.

I am the Cheese Lady, and I tell it like it is. [/quote]

I like you, Cheese Lady, but I don't think you get UMC.
1) The distinction between LMC and UMC families ties seems a little self-serving. I've seen plenty of disfunctional LMC families, the reason they are LMC is because neither parent can hold down a job. I also think the divorce rate and the rate of unwed moms is higher in LMC. Not judging, just saying.
2) LMC college grads aren't necessarily smarter, because there's a lot of research showing IQ and verbal skills are correlated with family SES.
3) UMC looks down on Disney. Vegas is OK for bachelor parties, but an UMC wouldn't want to plan a normal vacation around it. 
4) UMCs to compete on vacation, but it's an exagerration to say they brag about "vacation homes" in the plural. It takes upper class to have "vacation homes" in the plural. And your snipe about cattiness crosses class boundaries, just look at yourself sniping at UMC women....
5) I agree with you! LMC wedding receptions are more fun! Although many LMC weddings feature over-dried fried chicken catered by the mother-of-the-bride's BFF (I've choked down some of that stuff) and no alcohol.[/quote]

I stand corrected.  I am not from an UMC background myself, although I now have entree and freely go in and out of it.  I may have conflated some upper class characteristics with UMC.  However, I don't think there is any family out there who will not start to fight, brother against brother and father against son, if a shitload of money wasn't dropped on them.  People behave due to their circumstances, not due to some innate immutable characteristic.  We are all the same.

I have nothing but love for my UMC friends.  No offense intended.  I just, well, I just didn't like that TJ Maxx swipe!

The Cheese Lady is on a path of continuing life education, and she thanks you for your clarification.[/quote]

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