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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My child will be going to UVA. Got rejected from Ivies. What are we missing by not going to Ivies for pre-med. Outside of pre-med, do Ivies and other top schools create employers and other schools create employees[/quote] Colleges ranked by percentage of undergraduates who go on to attend medical school: 2 Harvard 3 Yale 5 Brown 13 Penn 16 Princeton 23 Cornell 46 Columbia 84 UVA https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/adam.hearn4686/viz/TopFeederstoMedicalSchool/TopFeeders-Med5[/quote] UVA has much bigger enrollment than any of these. Cream rises to the top.[/quote] True--but you're taking the chance that your state school kid will be the cream. It's not always the case. Big pond, lots of fish.[/quote] The No. 1 school, JHU is at 4%, It's still a pretty small number.[/quote] No just NO. That data keeps getting shared on here. it is from linked-in or something it has nothing to do with reality. It is completely flawed data. Look at published AMCAS tables or the schools themselves.[b] At JHU, 470 undergrads applied to US medical schools for 2025 and 85% got in. 45% were from that senior year, the rest split between one gap and two gap years. Averaged over the years,[/b] 350-500 eventually apply to medical school from each graduating class of 1550, and 90% of them get in! That is NOT FOUR PERCENT. Other top feeders are most of the ivies plus other top schools with medical schools such as Vanderbilt, Duke, WashU, Emory: They each supply 350-500 applicants to the US MD programs only(DO is not included) and have undergrad graduating classes of 1500 to 2400, or 15-35% of each graduating class. They each report 80-93% success of their medical school applicants. UCLA had 1270 applicants to US Med schools, with an undergrad class of around 8500 per year or 15% which is the largest Public-school feeder overall and per capita in the country. UVA had 478 applicants to US med schools for an undergrad class cohort of around 4100, 11%, which is well above average as far as med school feeder. -Med admissions consultant again. [/quote] I am not sure where you got this data point but it is incorrect. Per JHU themselves ([url]https://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/preprofadvising/pre-medhealth/after-graduation/[/url]) over 80% of JHU students take a gap year. For Harvard it is 85% as well.[/quote]
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