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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My child will be going to UVA. Got rejected from Ivies. What are we missing by not going to Ivies for pre-med. Outside of pre-med, do Ivies and other top schools create employers and other schools create employees[/quote]

Colleges ranked by percentage of undergraduates who go on to attend medical school:

2 Harvard
3 Yale
5 Brown
13 Penn
16 Princeton
23 Cornell
46 Columbia
84 UVA

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/adam.hearn4686/viz/TopFeederstoMedicalSchool/TopFeeders-Med5[/quote]

If the denominator is the class size, [b]this will penalize the large schools.[/b] Should be based on how many students declare themselves as premed and of these how many get into med school [/quote]

I think most people care about whether their kid will have better odds.  To calculate odds, you need to adjust for school size.[/quote]

Only if you sincerely believe that 100% of undergrads at every school are premed. [/quote]

No.  But adjusting for school size is better than not adjusting for school size.  Otherwise, you run the risk of determining that Ohio State and Arizona State are the best schools for pre-med.  I am not aware of any analysis that starts with the percentage of undergraduates that are pre-med because that information is not available.[/quote]

AMCAS table of applicants and divide by graduating seniors. [/quote]

The AAMC information is number of applicants by school, not acceptances, and it also not percentage of undergraduates that are pre-med because many if not most of those do not end up applying.[/quote]

The acceptance rate of actual applicants is found on each school's premed page, though some schools have the data accessible to current students only. 
Whether more students start as premed is irrelevant to the upthread statement that only 4% are premed. At the top schools, private and public, the range is 15-35% of the graduating class applies to MD programs in the US (usually 0, 1 or 2 years after graduating) and 80-93% of those get in to at least one school. Yes, likely 25-45% started as premeds, depending on weedout factors which by the way are a lot less and sometimes nonexistent at the same group of top schools. But at a minimum, 15-35% are premed the entire time and that is indeed a huge figure. 
Law data can be parsed the same way though I do not personally have access to nearly as much data for law as med, just my kids' ivies, and it is about the same as med school, 15-24% of each graduating class applies within a year or so of graduating, almost all are successful. PhD is far more difficult and likely not as big, though there are some departments that list grads and 50% are going straight to phD next year. Some have very few. Depends on the field, plus as phd is much more competitive it may drop a lot next year in favor of masters.
The ivy/elite schools often have over 60% who go for med, law, phd or other grad/professional school within 0-3 years of graduating. Those figures are not too changed than when I was at a different ivy around 1991. Certain careers will always be targeted by the top schools, and though consulting is popular, many of them only do it for a couple of years then go back to school, commonly MBA though I know a few MD colleagues who did it for the money. [/quote]

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