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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]They updated their civil preparedness guide, that’s it.[/b]  Trump’s daddy and the Chinese are over there waving missiles around and cutting communications lines underwater, so[b] it’s just like preparing for hurricane season[/b].  Get batteries, have an emergency supply, know where the shelters are, etc.

However, they are NATO members now, it would be pretty stupid to attack them directly.

https://apnews.com/article/sweden-finland-norway-denmark-russia-nato-war-9ebe1ca0d714cacd8ec279945598d6c1[/quote]

It's more than this.  Finland has a very long history of conflict with Russia.  Russian tried to invade Finland in 1939-1940, but basically was unable to succeed and ended in the Moscow Peace Treaty.  The Finns have lived with an aggressive USSR/Russia on their border for almost 100 years, and until the Ukraine invasion, their strategy was to have an incredibly strong defense that incorporated the whole society.

Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, all Finns, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians and Poles are convinced at the government and grassroots level, that they are next after Ukraine.  Everyone anticipates that if the Russian invasion ends with either a cease fire or peace treaty that leaves Russia in control of any Ukrainian territory - any of the Donbas or Crimea - that Russia will simply use the absence of fighting to rearm and then destabilize and attack Poland and the Baltics.

While it seems stupid to attack NATO, if Trump makes it clear that the US won't come to Europe's defense, Putin will see that as a green light for a narrow window in which he can attack again without any repercussions. Even if he doesn't do it openly, he is already running a shadow war all across Europe -- cutting communication cables, setting fire to critical installations, assassinating opponents in England, Spain, and Germany, testing the air and sea space by violating former boundaries on the daily, etc.

This isn't some chicken little fantasy, this is their lived history for the last century and more. Everyone in Europe knows what is coming sometime in the next 4 or 5 years.  Only the US is so stupid and naive as to believe that we can force Ukraine and Russia to sign a peace treaty and all this will go away. 
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The border has been there for more than 100 years and they have dealt with Russia as a neighbor from time eternity and shall continue to have that border for all eternity.

If only the lunatics in the middle east could understand/realize the same [/quote]

Russia invaded Finland in 1939, annexed the independent Baltic countries in 1940, and effectively occupied Poland until 1993. Of course all of these countries are preparing for war depending on the outcome of Ukraine. If Ukraine falls, it is assumed Russia will take a year or two to rearm and then move on to reclaim the old Soviet empire. The entire Russian economy is now a war economy. They basically can't afford to stop fighting at this point. Which is why every border country is spending heavily on defense now. Poland will be spending 7.5 percent of GDP on defense this year. That's more than twice what the US spends. And after 75 years of being unaligned, Finland and Sweden specifically joined NATO because they both very much feel the need for a security umbrella now. Things have changed. Everyone in the region fears Russian imperialism and they are preparing accordingly. It's going to be an eventful 4 years in Europe. The only thing Russia responds to is strength. They have violated every treaty. Military power is the only thing that might dissuade Russia, which is why it's been so important to support Ukraine. Because if Ukraine falls, it will be a horrible conflagration elsewhere in Europe.  [/quote]

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