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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This post is a straw-man argument because almost nobody redshirts their kid. Even the vast majority of kids born between October and December start on time. I started a year late because I'm small and would've looked like a hobbit next to my peers, but I'm over 30 now and can count on one hand the number of people I know, myself included, who were redshirted. So you just sound like a hammer looking for a nail.[/quote]

Of course Oct-Dec go on time because in almost every state they are the oldest. Not NY so you must be from NY.[/quote]

DP but from New York and have kids with fall birthdays.

First of all, most privates here have a 9/1 or 10/1 cutoff. It’s the public schools and a handful of privates (including ours) that have 12/31 cutoffs.

A lot of people do hold back fall (and summer) birthdays here, especially boys. In my son’s private with a 12/31 cutoff, 50% of fall birthdays redshirt.

It was much less common when we were growing up, and is more confusing now that NY is such an outlier from the rest of the country with its late cutoff. It’s primarily so low income families have access to childcare sooner, including universal prek. It’s not because it developmentally appropriate for most children to start today’s very structured and sedentary kindergarten curriculum at 4 years old - it’s primarily a better alternative to low quality childcare for low income families. 
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I hate, hate, hate the NYC policy. My son's birthday is December 29th, and we lived in NYC until he was in 3rd grade. Let me tell you that when he started Kindergarten at 4, and was 4 for four months of the school year, it was pure hell. I tried so hard to have him held back, but the DOE would not budge. We ended up having to enroll him in a private school so he could repeat K.

I have no answers to why they do it, but was an extreme disadvantage to my son.[/quote]

At least it only lasted a year. We made the mistake of sending our late-November-born son at 4, and were NEVER able to hold him back.[/quote]

There are plenty of adults currently over the age of 30 who went to kindergarten at 4 years old and did just fine.   In 1975 there were only a handful of states that had September cut off dates for kindergarten.   In 2010 a lot more states had cut off dates of September.  Northeast states has the most later cut off dates.

Connecticut had January 1st cut off dates for kindergarten until last year when they changed it to September.   Massachusetts always left it up to the individual school districts and many had December cut off dates until recently.  New Hampshire still has December cut off dates.  But most states are trying to be uniform in their ages.  People do move around a lot and uniformity helps.

This link shows the 1975 dates in US states compared to 2010

https://www.ecs.org/clearinghouse/73/67/7367.pdf
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